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You’re right that you can’t personally farm them, but you can still end up getting them from publics. The old relics are still operable. I have hundreds of old relics that I open as fodder, as do other regular players. And ofc trading. The surplus of old relics helps keep down trade prices because they’re still trickling into the market, albeit slower.

A better example is prime accessories. These are real-money only, and can only be bought from Prime Access (when a Prime is released) or a Prime Resurgence (Prime temporarily back for sale a year or so later). Stuff like Octavia Prime’s shawzin/sitar being $35 or gone for (effecively) forever.


The community is very open about warframe.market existing though. Like an auction house for player trading across all servers. So if your relics drop bad items. Sell them on the market until you can eventually buy the one you want.

Other games do thinks like soulbound/account bound stuff. Not everything in WF is tradable, but most things are


I hear thats what European Truck Simulator 1, 2, and American truck simulator are excellent for. Driving around on long roads with meditative scenery.


Yeah I remember thr same thing. Everything else was suppose to be a package update.

But back-end technology and usage expectations change, and there’s a limit to what front-end changes an existing user tolerates. That was never a promise they could keep.

It has lasted a really long time, though. I don’t decry 11 existing. I’m upset they’re sunsetting 10 without giving us a chance to wait for 11 to get better, let alone for ‘oops we fixed the fuckups’ W12.


Nope, will probably avoid 11 as long as I can though. I have an Mvidia card (drivers are notoriously troublesome on Linux). And I need professional design software for work (as in, industry standard: Adobe or Affinity).

But I put 11 on my laptop to try it and I hate it. So many terrible UI changes, UX noticeably worse. Like they changed stuff just to say they changed stuff.

I considered going Linux for personal use and development, and then using another machine or dual boot for Mac for design software. But i learned about the Nvidia issues after I upgraded my card :/ and swapping to Mac’s walled garden after avoiding it for decades is… a sign of how bad W11 feels to use.