And meanwhile, I’m wondering how I can upgrade an AM4 motherboard CPU so that it can keep up with my Radeon RX 9070 XT… Apparently the X3D chips are no longer made, maybe I ought to look for a second hand one (using a Ryzen 9 3900X now which is good, but which seems to have trouble keeping up in games which are a decent part of my usage). Although the used market prices are fucking insane (500 € +).
There were rumors of a new series of AM4 chips, but nothing came of it (as suspected).
It seems most obvious to me in Insurgency, although I probably ought to run some kind of diag thing to pinpoint the problem.
The machine has 32GB RAM, Ryzen 9 3900X (not OCd), Radeon RX 9070 XT (slightly factory OCd), feeding a MSI 49" 5120x1440 display. In practice, I rarely get more than 100 fps at native resolution, often more like between 30 and 60. Looks nice though.
Well, you’re pushing 4K res at that point, which will always be a strain. Insurgency (Sandstorm?) is usually CPU heavy but at 4K, your CPU is rarely going to be the performance bottleneck. I’d just take a look at a resource monitor while you’re playing and see what’s capping out first.
glad I didn’t listen to my spouse and built my badass computer right when the 9070XT / 5070TI came out (went with the 9070 for the 16gb vram, happy with the card).
You know all those post apocalyptic shows where people are zap strapping turbos from different vehicles to their vehicle and doing all kinds of weird shit to bitch slap a working vehicle together?
This is our PC hardware future. Buying old components, swapping/trading, buying used.
I’m not convinced. I think there’s a decent enough chance that in a couple of years it’ll be the opposite, we’ll all have supercharged Hemi Cuda’s on our desks. Because there’s been a lot of production that’s all been allocated to the AI market, and when that implodes…
Building a PC the past 2 years has been the best decision ever…depleted inventories my fucking ass, less people are building PC’s now than ever because of the memory chip prices. They’re cutting supply to increase prices.
This is a reminder to all AMD fans that NO company gives a damn about any of us.
This is a reminder to all AMD fans that NO company gives a damn about any of us.
Foundry costs have gone through the roof, because demand is greater than supply. So AMD’s production costs have surely increased.
So while companies are not our friends, it is surely quite reasonable for AMD to raise enduser cost, when AMD’s production cost increases. And not necessarily some conspiracy against the user. Right? Cartels and illegal monopolies are absolutely a thing that can happen, but you have to actually argue that is the case here, before saying AMD is acting badly.
Same here. Built a new PC like 6 months ago when it was all barely starting (good timing) and my notebook and phone are also fairly recent, like 1.5 years old. Tablet as well fairly recent, 2y old, but that’s really only used for home media consumption so it doesn’t even matter in that case.
So I should be good for the next 5+ years or so. Hopefully the AI bubble has burst until then.
I was planning on replacing my 2017 build next year but I bit the bullet this month. Even if prices drop by 50% in the next year there are going to be no parts to buy :/
I did a 2020 build just as we were all going home, and it was decent enough. After the first wave of GPU craziness, I thought you know what, I’m going to grab one of those 4070ti cards and a 5800x3d, and topped it up to 128gb of Ram (it was on sale for like under $200, so why not, I just wanted to fill the slots). I mean sure it’s AM4, and the 4070 was supposedly the worst card ever and such a waste of money and blah blah blah, but it works. Will work for quite some time. And hey if things keep going the way they are, at least I can put my kids through college by selling some of the Ram in 10 years time lol.
My 2019 gaming build still outperforms my SD, obviously, but yeah my SD was a great purchase. I use it a lot. And this is why PC gaming is the best. I could still play the latest and greatest, just with graphics turned down. And I can continue to do so until (hopefully) this whole thing blows over.
Thing is that low prices in tech is the only thing thats been damping down inflation throughout this millenia and before. Combine this with the war on low energy prices and its quite the time bomb.
There’s a lot of tomfuckery going on with the baskets too. Oh we have 11% inflation but take out fuel and groceries and hey look everyone it’s only 3%!! Yay us we beat inflation!!!
What also makes me absolutely laugh until I cry, is they focus everyone on annual inflation, and conveniently try to make everyone forget the situation. Five year inflation remains to be something absolutely hysterical, it’s something like 24 or 25% I beleive.
yeah and its been pretty steady combined with wage loss. I have seen trumpery with that to in that they will say wages went up by some small amount and from my experience they have been going down at the pleb level. I think its all at high levels if anything. One problem with so much inflation in such a short span is even if wages were trying to keep up it would be hard to with them slipping its much worse. Plus minimum wage ans such is so behind. The fight for 15 was over a decade a go.
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It’s as if they want us all to touch grass.
It’s not. They want us all to use AI.
What they want isn’t what they’ll get. I could get into hiking anyways.
Black guy in the mountains. Crisp air and all.
And meanwhile, I’m wondering how I can upgrade an AM4 motherboard CPU so that it can keep up with my Radeon RX 9070 XT… Apparently the X3D chips are no longer made, maybe I ought to look for a second hand one (using a Ryzen 9 3900X now which is good, but which seems to have trouble keeping up in games which are a decent part of my usage). Although the used market prices are fucking insane (500 € +).
There were rumors of a new series of AM4 chips, but nothing came of it (as suspected).
I haven’t run into a real bottleneck yet with my 5600, but I’m also running 1440p. What are you playing that you’ve felt CPU constrained?
It seems most obvious to me in Insurgency, although I probably ought to run some kind of diag thing to pinpoint the problem.
The machine has 32GB RAM, Ryzen 9 3900X (not OCd), Radeon RX 9070 XT (slightly factory OCd), feeding a MSI 49" 5120x1440 display. In practice, I rarely get more than 100 fps at native resolution, often more like between 30 and 60. Looks nice though.
Well, you’re pushing 4K res at that point, which will always be a strain. Insurgency (Sandstorm?) is usually CPU heavy but at 4K, your CPU is rarely going to be the performance bottleneck. I’d just take a look at a resource monitor while you’re playing and see what’s capping out first.
It’s true that this probably requires more thorough testing.
This wouldn’t be such a concern if wages were also going up.
Pay more, get the same. Fantastic deal. 🙄
Yeah, and at the same time nvidia has been making garbage cards for years now at overpriced price points.
NGL I’m not loving being a PC enthusiast lately.
Good news! It affects ALL hardware, even those for PS/Xbox/Nintendo/Phones/etc!
Guess I’ll never have a gaming PC then :(
Any PC can be a gaming PC if you temper your expectations accordingly.
That day will come.
I believe in you, ilovesaggytits:)
Thank you for believing in me, kind stranger. I’ll definitely work hard for that day :)
Didnt Intel just release cheap CPUs?
glad I didn’t listen to my spouse and built my badass computer right when the 9070XT / 5070TI came out (went with the 9070 for the 16gb vram, happy with the card).
You know all those post apocalyptic shows where people are zap strapping turbos from different vehicles to their vehicle and doing all kinds of weird shit to bitch slap a working vehicle together?
This is our PC hardware future. Buying old components, swapping/trading, buying used.
I’m not convinced. I think there’s a decent enough chance that in a couple of years it’ll be the opposite, we’ll all have supercharged Hemi Cuda’s on our desks. Because there’s been a lot of production that’s all been allocated to the AI market, and when that implodes…
They will probably trash or recycle them than sell them. They are that petty.
Also the companies have grown so big that they can afford to eat a loss if it means telling us to go fuck ourselves.
Building a PC the past 2 years has been the best decision ever…depleted inventories my fucking ass, less people are building PC’s now than ever because of the memory chip prices. They’re cutting supply to increase prices.
This is a reminder to all AMD fans that NO company gives a damn about any of us.
Foundry costs have gone through the roof, because demand is greater than supply. So AMD’s production costs have surely increased.
So while companies are not our friends, it is surely quite reasonable for AMD to raise enduser cost, when AMD’s production cost increases. And not necessarily some conspiracy against the user. Right? Cartels and illegal monopolies are absolutely a thing that can happen, but you have to actually argue that is the case here, before saying AMD is acting badly.
I think that is reasonable, but, either this article is not accurate, or that is not the cause that AMD stated.
From the top of the article:
Nothing about a supplier or service provider mentioned. They mention their BS made-up shortages.
Well, what do you think is causing the depleted inventories? Surely the lack of foundry availability.
No need for the reminder, but AMD is still better than intel :P.
Looking at rthe new 250 and 270 processors we may have some healthy competition again
Are they really though? What has AMD done that’s been so consumer friendly, as of late?
Kept their CPU socket the same, contributed way more to open source, supported linux more…
But it’s probably still solely based on their own interest.
Same here. Built a new PC like 6 months ago when it was all barely starting (good timing) and my notebook and phone are also fairly recent, like 1.5 years old. Tablet as well fairly recent, 2y old, but that’s really only used for home media consumption so it doesn’t even matter in that case. So I should be good for the next 5+ years or so. Hopefully the AI bubble has burst until then.
I was planning on replacing my 2017 build next year but I bit the bullet this month. Even if prices drop by 50% in the next year there are going to be no parts to buy :/
I did a 2020 build just as we were all going home, and it was decent enough. After the first wave of GPU craziness, I thought you know what, I’m going to grab one of those 4070ti cards and a 5800x3d, and topped it up to 128gb of Ram (it was on sale for like under $200, so why not, I just wanted to fill the slots). I mean sure it’s AM4, and the 4070 was supposedly the worst card ever and such a waste of money and blah blah blah, but it works. Will work for quite some time. And hey if things keep going the way they are, at least I can put my kids through college by selling some of the Ram in 10 years time lol.
My decision to buy a Steam Deck has proven financially sound in the long run.
My 2019 gaming build still outperforms my SD, obviously, but yeah my SD was a great purchase. I use it a lot. And this is why PC gaming is the best. I could still play the latest and greatest, just with graphics turned down. And I can continue to do so until (hopefully) this whole thing blows over.
this is going down as one of my better purchases.
sad team red noises
Thing is that low prices in tech is the only thing thats been damping down inflation throughout this millenia and before. Combine this with the war on low energy prices and its quite the time bomb.
There’s a lot of tomfuckery going on with the baskets too. Oh we have 11% inflation but take out fuel and groceries and hey look everyone it’s only 3%!! Yay us we beat inflation!!!
What also makes me absolutely laugh until I cry, is they focus everyone on annual inflation, and conveniently try to make everyone forget the situation. Five year inflation remains to be something absolutely hysterical, it’s something like 24 or 25% I beleive.
yeah and its been pretty steady combined with wage loss. I have seen trumpery with that to in that they will say wages went up by some small amount and from my experience they have been going down at the pleb level. I think its all at high levels if anything. One problem with so much inflation in such a short span is even if wages were trying to keep up it would be hard to with them slipping its much worse. Plus minimum wage ans such is so behind. The fight for 15 was over a decade a go.
Absolute canyon that’s opened up, with inflation and earnings over the medium term.