PlayStation Studios removed PC references across most studio pages, adding credibility to the rumor that Sony may be changing its first-party PC release plans.
I skipped the switch 2 despite heavily using the switch 1 for many years, and i’m planning on skipping future iterations of playstations as well. PC has usurped consoles for me entirely.
Even couch gaming on linux is better than a console. I’m all set. The deck or it’s equivalents handles any handheld gaming I want to do and it’s trivial to stream locally if I don’t want to have a gaming computer near my tv.
Oh, and i’ve ditched microsoft controllers to. 3rd party quality is phenomenal nowadays and it’s not limited to any one brand. I have this flydigi and 8bitdo stuff that all feel amazing and are more reliable than microsoft’s own and are cheaper with more features. It’s so nice not being dependent on overpriced garbage!
I haven’t played my PS5 in many months, and have no motivation to get a PS6 for $1000 or whatever they end up on. It’s sad to see Sony games go, because I have and absolutely would continue to get them on PC, but there’s literally no chance of me buying another one of their consoles.
Its a bad time to cut diversification when people will not be buying the new things like they used to because they cant afford them. I wish Sony the worst of luck.
I’m never going to buy a PlayStation outside of maybe a yard sale second hand situation. Nor will I ever pay a subscription fee. So if they don’t want my money, fuck 'em.
They are a console manufacturer, a platform holder. It makes absolutely no sense to put your proprietary IPS on other platforms when you’re trying to sell your platform and system. It’s the entire reason that Nintendo still exists. Look at Microsoft, how many more nails in that coffin can possibly be put in it.
They definitely want to sell hardware and have closed platforms built around their hardware.
But that’s not as easy to do as it was even 10 years ago.
The nature of gaming is changing and it’s more difficult to differentiate based on hardware alone. You have indie games which tend to be multi-platform, you have Roblox, Fortnite, PC specific games have also become more common.
And it’s difficult to manage hardware costs and show meaningful graphical quality improvements. Hardware subsidies in the first few years of a new console are basically not viable anymore.
Even Nintendo’s handheld dominance is being slowly challenged (their games are extremely expensive on a relative basis).
Also that argument isn’t really as great as it was in the PS3 or PS2 era where a lot of games either didn’t come out on PC, had weird versions, or ran like shit for no reason. Plus I can play a game released in 1996 one minute and then switch to a game released in 2026 since PC is basically universally backwards compatible.
So, not defending them because it’s still a stupid choice, but their reasons were not because PC bad, but because Xbox announced their “Play PC games on the next Xbox”. Meaning Microsoft’s next console could play PS games now (if they bought the PC version). Sony doesn’t want their rival console to play their games, so they revoked it.
I still think it’s stupid, exclusives are stupid, but that’s the actual reason before many more people claim that sony hates PC players. (I mean they do, but not for the reason you think)
I think there must be other reasons. Death Stranding was released as PS exclusive but got an actual Xbox release some time after PC release. Also, Microsoft has also released many first party titles on PS5. Even the new Halo will be on PS5.
This would make sense if they hadn’t increased the price of their hardware twice in one year. To me it just looks like they started behaving like a monopolistic company (because they can, as xbox is in the shitter)
Had the dumbshit U.S. president not shit out a bunch of tariffs along with every AI company buying up future stock of computer parts, I really don’t think Sony would have increased the price of these consoles.
They know it’s a bad look to do so. Microsoft also had to raise prices on their consoles last year.
Haven’t the slop companies not even actually bought anything yet? My understanding is that no money’s actually changed hands, and that all of this is happening because they pinky promised to buy components in the future with money they don’t even have right now. Which, yes, is basically how buying on credit works, but for everyone else that usually first requires having a reputation for being able to actually pay eventually, rather than the bubble imploding and all these companies going under before the order is even fulfilled.
I think there were rumors even before the Xbox announcement. People speculated it might be because of the Steam Machine, which could be considered a console.
Except do we actually know how the Xbox/PC thing will work? Are we sure it will be able to run all games and isn’t just their plan to push game streaming?
“Fault” isn’t an attack here. No need for the weird analogy. I just think the Steam Deck is the inciting incident to a whole chain of events in the gaming industry.
Sony was always the “exclusives” company. For the PS5 I believe they outsold the Xbox equivalent all most 2:1 but I think that is because more and more people have gaming PCs. I still can’t believe PS5 sold something like 90 million! I think Sony is fighting a losing battle now steam is pushing for agnostic hardware and I only see Sony continuing this business model with exclusives that will never come to PC. Right now they are doing the math to determine what it would take to get the average person to buy a new PlayStation vs how much they made from Sony pc sales. It’s going to get harder every year with less developers going totally exclusive and the component cost increased. I’m guessing they will use the same model for ps6. Sell the consoles based on excluses then wait a few years once the console sales dip and move them over to PC. Steam machine is a real wildcard here.
Yeah, I really hope these are just the death throes of a slowly crumbling market segment (walled garden consoles).
Not only has the Steam Deck already blown a small crack into the almost entirely propietary handheld market, so much so that there’s now even a (niche) market with a bunch of different devices competing, but I also wonder what happens once the Steam Machine and whatever is happening with the next Xbox.
I’d usually be the last to root for Microsoft, but if their next device is really something more akin to a PC, then I wish them the best. That said, anything shipping with Linux, e.g. Steam Machines would still be my preferred choice of course.
Makes a lot of sense they’d do this in preparation for the PS6. Hopefully it’s just temporary.
Honestly I don’t know if it was a financially sensible move releasing exclusives to PC, but it was great for gamers while it lasted. Maybe they could go linux only in future to really take a stab at Microsoft. Ha.
Sony doesn’t even release that many games anymore. Games take half a decade plus to make and I’ve lost interest in Sony’s superhero movies with interactive elements
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I skipped the switch 2 despite heavily using the switch 1 for many years, and i’m planning on skipping future iterations of playstations as well. PC has usurped consoles for me entirely.
Even couch gaming on linux is better than a console. I’m all set. The deck or it’s equivalents handles any handheld gaming I want to do and it’s trivial to stream locally if I don’t want to have a gaming computer near my tv.
Oh, and i’ve ditched microsoft controllers to. 3rd party quality is phenomenal nowadays and it’s not limited to any one brand. I have this flydigi and 8bitdo stuff that all feel amazing and are more reliable than microsoft’s own and are cheaper with more features. It’s so nice not being dependent on overpriced garbage!
My console money is for the Steam Frame so nothing of value was lost. Most of their games can be watched through a let’s play series anyway.
Love to see them come to steam (all platforms) instead
Instead of “little money” they’re going for no money. Bold move.
I haven’t played my PS5 in many months, and have no motivation to get a PS6 for $1000 or whatever they end up on. It’s sad to see Sony games go, because I have and absolutely would continue to get them on PC, but there’s literally no chance of me buying another one of their consoles.
Surely this won’t backfire. I’m happy I never bought a ps5 and now I know I won’t buy a ps6 out of principle.
Lol goodbye
Its a bad time to cut diversification when people will not be buying the new things like they used to because they cant afford them. I wish Sony the worst of luck.
I’m never going to buy a PlayStation outside of maybe a yard sale second hand situation. Nor will I ever pay a subscription fee. So if they don’t want my money, fuck 'em.
Good. Should never have wasted the time doing it to begin with.
yeah!!! i’m so mad that more people are able to play these cool games! they should have never tried to have a bigger audience smh
They are a console manufacturer, a platform holder. It makes absolutely no sense to put your proprietary IPS on other platforms when you’re trying to sell your platform and system. It’s the entire reason that Nintendo still exists. Look at Microsoft, how many more nails in that coffin can possibly be put in it.
Not if there is no impact on your console platform if a given market segment would never spend money on your platform in the first place.
I bought Death Stranding and Heavy Rain on PC, I would not buy a Playstation just to play those 2 games.
It’s their call of course, I think the era of consoles as a siloed platform is slowly coming to an end.
I don’t think so at all. PlayStation and Nintendo want to sell hardware where as Microsoft does not care anymore because they can’t.
They definitely want to sell hardware and have closed platforms built around their hardware.
But that’s not as easy to do as it was even 10 years ago.
The nature of gaming is changing and it’s more difficult to differentiate based on hardware alone. You have indie games which tend to be multi-platform, you have Roblox, Fortnite, PC specific games have also become more common.
And it’s difficult to manage hardware costs and show meaningful graphical quality improvements. Hardware subsidies in the first few years of a new console are basically not viable anymore.
Even Nintendo’s handheld dominance is being slowly challenged (their games are extremely expensive on a relative basis).
The only PlayStation Studios games I’ve been interested in are the Spider-Man games.
I have coworkers discussing exclusives in tones where they’re clearly trying to make me jealous, and I’m just fine with my games
Also that argument isn’t really as great as it was in the PS3 or PS2 era where a lot of games either didn’t come out on PC, had weird versions, or ran like shit for no reason. Plus I can play a game released in 1996 one minute and then switch to a game released in 2026 since PC is basically universally backwards compatible.
I tell them they paid $800 to play a couple of games and that is crazy to me.
Horizon Zero Dawn and Days Gone were quite good
I’m still mad that they won’t do a sequelto days gone. I want closure!
So, not defending them because it’s still a stupid choice, but their reasons were not because PC bad, but because Xbox announced their “Play PC games on the next Xbox”. Meaning Microsoft’s next console could play PS games now (if they bought the PC version). Sony doesn’t want their rival console to play their games, so they revoked it.
I still think it’s stupid, exclusives are stupid, but that’s the actual reason before many more people claim that sony hates PC players. (I mean they do, but not for the reason you think)
I think there must be other reasons. Death Stranding was released as PS exclusive but got an actual Xbox release some time after PC release. Also, Microsoft has also released many first party titles on PS5. Even the new Halo will be on PS5.
I don’t think DS is first party? I might be wrong. It came to Macs and iPhones too.
I think they just got the timed exclusive.
This would make sense if they hadn’t increased the price of their hardware twice in one year. To me it just looks like they started behaving like a monopolistic company (because they can, as xbox is in the shitter)
Had the dumbshit U.S. president not shit out a bunch of tariffs along with every AI company buying up future stock of computer parts, I really don’t think Sony would have increased the price of these consoles.
They know it’s a bad look to do so. Microsoft also had to raise prices on their consoles last year.
Haven’t the slop companies not even actually bought anything yet? My understanding is that no money’s actually changed hands, and that all of this is happening because they pinky promised to buy components in the future with money they don’t even have right now. Which, yes, is basically how buying on credit works, but for everyone else that usually first requires having a reputation for being able to actually pay eventually, rather than the bubble imploding and all these companies going under before the order is even fulfilled.
Neither the price increases or the fact that Microsoft is giving up on a pure console are Sony’s fault.
It’s still unfortunate that this is happening. PC is no longer neutral ground.
If that would be the case then they could have tried something funny like having their games running only on Linux.
Of course power users would be able to get it running on Windows, but that would likely discourage Xbox folks.
I think there were rumors even before the Xbox announcement. People speculated it might be because of the Steam Machine, which could be considered a console.
But yeah, I feel that Xbox cemented the decision.
Except do we actually know how the Xbox/PC thing will work? Are we sure it will be able to run all games and isn’t just their plan to push game streaming?
does it matter? shouldn’t be giving money to these companies anyways. they don’t deserve it and will just screw you over again and again
Nothing concrete, but their stated goal is to play any pc game on it, similar to what steam did with the deck. That was enough to scare off sony
Yeah, if anything, this is Valve’s fault. They upturned the playing field and proved a new path.
Well if they hadn’t paved the roads then the bank robbers couldn’t have driven away so really it’s the road pavers fault.
“Fault” isn’t an attack here. No need for the weird analogy. I just think the Steam Deck is the inciting incident to a whole chain of events in the gaming industry.
You could use a different word that’s not an attack if you don’t want to attack. Like “reason” or “catalyst” or “schmoople”.
Don’t get bent just because people took your words at face value rather than what you actually meant.
I’m just clarifying.
When you can’t compete, you restrict.
Sony was always the “exclusives” company. For the PS5 I believe they outsold the Xbox equivalent all most 2:1 but I think that is because more and more people have gaming PCs. I still can’t believe PS5 sold something like 90 million! I think Sony is fighting a losing battle now steam is pushing for agnostic hardware and I only see Sony continuing this business model with exclusives that will never come to PC. Right now they are doing the math to determine what it would take to get the average person to buy a new PlayStation vs how much they made from Sony pc sales. It’s going to get harder every year with less developers going totally exclusive and the component cost increased. I’m guessing they will use the same model for ps6. Sell the consoles based on excluses then wait a few years once the console sales dip and move them over to PC. Steam machine is a real wildcard here.
Yeah, I really hope these are just the death throes of a slowly crumbling market segment (walled garden consoles).
Not only has the Steam Deck already blown a small crack into the almost entirely propietary handheld market, so much so that there’s now even a (niche) market with a bunch of different devices competing, but I also wonder what happens once the Steam Machine and whatever is happening with the next Xbox.
I’d usually be the last to root for Microsoft, but if their next device is really something more akin to a PC, then I wish them the best. That said, anything shipping with Linux, e.g. Steam Machines would still be my preferred choice of course.
Makes a lot of sense they’d do this in preparation for the PS6. Hopefully it’s just temporary.
Honestly I don’t know if it was a financially sensible move releasing exclusives to PC, but it was great for gamers while it lasted. Maybe they could go linux only in future to really take a stab at Microsoft. Ha.
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Sony doesn’t even release that many games anymore. Games take half a decade plus to make and I’ve lost interest in Sony’s superhero movies with interactive elements