"We knew we were asking for unusual things," says Newell, "and Oceanco embraced it with open arms."
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Gabe is a pretty good billionaire. He has made a lot of people happy. He doesn’t spend his money trying to manipulate society. I think Gabe deserves a new yacht.

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Multiple online casinos for underage customers that he runs disagree.

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He doesn’t run them, what nonsense are people pushing now.

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Man can’t be responsible for all the nice things in Steam but absolved of creating a lootbox/gambling empire.

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No, I mean he literally does not run those. It’s like blaming the bank for ‘running a drug empire’ when someone buys some weed.

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Isn’t he CEO of Valve, a company with famously lean amount of staff?

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Yes, he’s the president of Valve, not the CEO of multiple online casinos for underage customers. Those generally are not based in the US in the first place.

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Why did various EU regulators had to tell Valve that their gambling business is illegal? It remains legal in some and so he continues to run them there.

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Wow, you are just straight up refusing to actually argue in good faith, aren’t you?

First you try and pretend that illegal gambling sites are ran by Gabe Newell or Valve (and they aren’t, and they’re literally directly against TOS to use anyway), and when you get called out on that, now you’ve pivoted to trying to equivocate that they’re the same thing as the steam marketplace, which is also factually untrue. Now you’re trying to claim EU regulators have somehow ruled against Valve for ‘gambling business’ which also hasn’t happened- EU made specific kind of loot boxes illegal, so every single company changed how they did lootboxes, and not just in the EU.

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You don’t know what he does in the dark. You don’t know the decisions he makes, the moves he pays for, or the things he does. You only see a very small amount of his actual life.

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Neither is you, or anyone except people he works with and is close to.

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Can’t remember a single Valve game that is $60 (today $80?) that has a Battle Pass, built in micro transactions that are pay-to-win, half-assed DLCs that should’ve been in base game, or a game being unfinished mess on release.

Valve is not a saint. But even with lootboxes they bring way more good to gaming industry in comparison to literally any other gaming company.

Bonus round!

Can you guess a game that has all these 4 points?

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Dota has a battle pass and micro transactions

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But the money from that goes to professional players that participate in the tournament and to organizers who organize the event.

How much money from battle pass goes to Fortnite/Battlefield/COD pro players?

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You didn’t say anything about where the money goes, you just said you can’t recall a Valve game with microtransactions or a battlepass. Dota has both.

If we want to have a discussion about how they spend that money, then I agree, Valve does a much better job than EA or Blizzard or similar

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That is purely comestics.

Can you guess a game that has all these 4 points?

$50 says it’s an EA game

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I’LL TAKE THAT…no I won’t take that bet, me thinks!

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For cosmetic only items, and in return they let everyone play for free. It doesn’t bother me as a business model.

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Says someone without a gambling addiction.

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Uh yea. Why would I have a gambling addition. That shit is stupid as fuck.

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You realize people can’t choose if they are addicted to gambling right? It’s the same as any addiction. Most people don’t even realize they have a problem until they have hit rock bottom.

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Gambling in any way is a problem. It’s a dumb activity which leads only to sadness. There is no safe amount of gambling.

I blame alcoholics for drinking, not brewers for brewing beer.

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Gambling disorder is recognized by the DSM, this comment comes across as victim blaming and ableist.

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Gambling addictions have very high suicide ideation and suicide attempt rates. The exact numbers seem ti vary from study to study but I haven’t found any with percentages below double digits.

Gambling addictions are not uncommon either, with 1-3% of the general population being affected [Wikipedia]. Risk factors include starting young and online gambling by the way. Guess who encourages both?

If I had to guess, thousands of people have committed suicide at least partially due to Valve. “Partially” because case gambling could’ve been the entry into other forms of gambling that cemented gambling addictions.

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Skill issue.

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I don’t think monetizing gambling addictions so others can play for free is a great argument.

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Alright then, he get’s an extra sharp guillotine.

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What do we get for musk? Dull and rusty seem too merciful

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Frozen excrement blade on a scorching hot day.

Might need a dozen or so blades to get halfway through his neck but the splat after each one will be marvellous.

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A steam hammer https://youtu.be/zb-wWo2kT-w
But it goes down slowly. Very slowly.

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ViKings the show, the episode titled Blood Eagle. NSFL

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Solitary confinement or have Ol’ Musky live like the underclass.

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