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They’ll release one more update (my guess is whatever release-ready content they’ve already got), then the servers will shut down next Thursday.

“We don’t need player counts to be super huge in order to be successful” is starting to ring hollow.

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Honestly, I think gaming is done with new live service offerings.

Live service used to be a way to get a core-complete, feature-limited games in front of players earlier than if they were fully baked. This was actually good for everyone, as player feedback often guided roadmaps and changes. But now everyone expects every new game to be better than Fortnite, Overwatch, etc. on day one. This just won’t ever happen.

Also, the gaming community of today is OBSESSED with popularity numbers (steam concurrents and twitch view count, mostly), and if players don’t see that everyone else is playing a game then they won’t play either. This is fucking dumb, but we are where we are.

And don’t even get me started on gaming news and influencers, who seem like they love to hate. They bitch about being stuck with CoD, then shit on anything that could someday compete with it. It’s baffling.

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And don’t even get me started on gaming news and influencers, who seem like they love to hate. They bitch about being stuck with CoD, then shit on anything that could someday compete with it. It’s baffling.

Nothing gets more “engagement” like that. It’s not even isolated to games, any other section of news gets the same treatment. It’s a shit show of journalism that we have today.

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And yet Helldivers 2 comes out in 2024 and sets the world on fire. Seems to me that gaming is perfectly fine with live service as long as it’s in line with community expectations and not s soulless cash grab.

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Highguard’s leadership and at least one of their former devs said they were making this game in order to line their pockets.

They really never mentioned wanting to make a great game because they love these type of games.

It was they want a bigger piece of the pie and these games generate lots of revenue.

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Elden Ring: Nightreign is successful so far. But it’s quite different from default live-service games, since a lot of content is available in single-player mode too.

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And don’t even get me started on gaming news and influencers, who seem like they love to hate.

Literally every gaming news media outlet and “influencer” when the topic is Xbox:

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“Player feedback” is part of what makes most live services shit.

I don’t want reddit designing my game.

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