well until that day, we’ll love them. one day the fucking sun will explode, but you won’t catch me saying we should stop using solar generators.

you zealously disrespect my beliefs and push your own onto me.

if by “pushing my beliefs” you mean telling you shouldn’t infringe on the rights of others, then sure. add not understanding what irony is to your list of shortcomings. I don’t respect the beliefs of racists or religious nutjobs either. some viewpoints do not deserve respect. if you want to practice those beliefs, do it to yourself and nobody else. don’t demand other people abide by your abusive ideology. because if you do, then you’re gonna get pushback, and it will be well deserved.

self-determination doesn’t mean you get to oppress people because you don’t like their work.

your point of view is abusive to the people who took this job, so no, I don’t care about it. furthermore, it’s important that I call out people who act like you are, because the way you’re acting is absolutely incompatible with my anarchist lifestyle, where an individuals right to self-determination is sacrosanct. I’m focused on building a society that values the individual, you’re interested in building one where people can only support themselves so long as you approve of their work. that makes you no better than any right-wing religious nutjob, and absolutely an enemy of working class people everywhere.

not all viewpoints are equal, and yours are shockingly bad.

You’re literally making up statement I did not make

you’re not even capable of understanding the deeper context of the arguments you’re making. truly shameful. not only are you placing yourself on a pedestal and stripping away the rights and agency of others, you’re not even capable of realizing what you’re doing. you think you’re an ally, when in fact like most liberals you’re just perpetrating the systemic problems with capitalism. you think your opinion is the only valid one, thus reducing everyone else to mere objects for you to decide the proper fate of.

here’s my advice to you. stop telling people what’s in their best interests. they are the only ones who get to decide that, and you don’t have any right to say what is best for another person.

they signed a contract so nothing else matters.

and you’ve decided that since you object to what you think is AI, that what those VAs feel doesn’t matter. you’re strutting around like the typical liberal peacock, telling other people what they should be offended by. you’re not bright enough to see that you’re totally removing their agency from them and stripping them of their right to self determination, something which you accuse Embark of doing. of the two of us, who is the bigger narcissist here? of the two of us, who is the one treating the workers like they’re worth nothing and their opinions don’t matter? me, who says they should have agency in how they work, or you, who you should get to decide how they work?

you’re not a good person. and you’re not a smart person either, with the arguments you’ve been making. you’re a typical capitalist, who thinks you should get the final say over the rights and self determination of people you obviously see as worth less than you. how utterly shameful.

If my argument is so wrong why not instantly debunk it

I already did. what Embark is ding is not indentured servitude. saying it is doesn’t change reality, no matter how much you wish otherwise.

Come back with a real argument.

make a real one to begin with. you haven’t made an argument worth responding to. you’re claiming something is what it isn’t. that’s not an argument, that’s wishful thinking. you’ve completely failed here.

You haven’t provided any valid criticism of my argument. You might think what you’ve said is smart, but it is not and you should be embarrassed for even having tried such a ridiculous argument.

If a someone says the sky is purple, you don’t argue with them because it makes you look like an idiot. Everyone knows they are wrong, because the reality is so self evident that any engagement with that argument lends it credibility. I won’t give credibility to your ridiculous notions.

Once again, not indentured servitude. I’m not reading the rest of your comment because I doubt it’s more intelligent than the rest. Words have meanings, and you don’t get to just insist something and it be true. Your comments are MAGA level delusions, and I’m not interested in arguing them because you’re a zealot who has come to this thread with the certainty that you cannot be wrong. There’s no point in arguing with someone who can’t accept that reality doesn’t bend to their self-righteous whims.

It’s not indentured servitude, and that’s a weak ass argument trying to spin it like that. Nobody with the brains evolution gave a snail is falling for that shit. And you should be embarrassed that that’s the best argument you can come up with.

It’s such a blatantly, self-evidently wrong argument, that I’m not even going to dignify it with a counter argument because frankly, such grade-school bullshit like that is beneath both of us.

You do the labor, they get the benefit. Are you being cheated?

they were paid specifically to make the TTS and voice modulation system. none of the rest of your argument makes any sense whatsoever, because the core fundamental idea behind your entire argument is that they were “cheated”. they were not. they did the labor, they got the compensation. people were bitching because artists “weren’t being paid” for their work with AI, so somebody actually does pay them and you’re still whining. it just shows that you were never concerned with the artist in the first place.

The intellectual bankruptcy comes from you because instead of actually thinking about the situation you hide behind the “But they agreed to it” argument.

I’m not hiding at all. to be perfectly frank, as an anarchist, I don’t believe in copyright to begin with, and have no issue with genAI copying the work of artists. ideas can not be owned, no matter what some capitalist stans such as yourself believe, and it’s ridiculous people say it’s “theft” in the first place.

but that isn’t even what’s happening here. these VAs were paid to create the system, knowing all along that puritains like you would villainize them for their work for no other reason than you think you should get to tell other people how they can live their lives. the sheer narcissism that you’re displaying is beyond belief.

But this is something that I cannot let go, I don’t want to.

that’s too bad, considering most people are looking at this with a rational mind and don’t agree with you, and you have no ability to change it by yourself.

you imagined your poorly thought out argument was going to be some kind of gotcha.

they aren’t being cheated. the labor they signed up and were paid for was recording the voices for the TTS system. you might not like the fact they did that, but that doesn’t change facts. attempting to lie about it just shows your level of intellectual bankruptcy.

you don’t have to like it. just don’t misrepresent what’s going on because you don’t have a good argument against it. it’s not your opinion that’s getting all your comments downvoted, it’s the lying and moralizing.

I’m glad we’ll always have liberals to tell us what we should be outraged about. instead of asking those VA whether or not they’re offended by what they agreed to, you’ve stolen their voice and declared yourself the arbiter of what they should feel. you’ve decided your opinion is more important than theirs. what sort of narcissistic outrage farming junkie does that? where do you get off, stealing the voice from others who can speak for themselves?

they’re effectively paying a one time fee for the VA voice and then use it for free for forever.

yes, that’s what they agreed to and were paid for. and that’s perfectly fine, they weren’t duped and had no issues with it, so even the flimsy moral outrage people come up with over supposed rights to things they create doesn’t apply.

Marketing this as “text-to-speech” is oversimplyfying at best, dishonest at worst imho.

it is literally a text-to-speech system. saying otherwise is just ignorant.

first of all, yes. I’m an anarchist, I don’t believe in copyright, it’s capitalist bullshit. you can’t own ideas. anything you create is as much mine as it is yours, and I’ll use it for whatever purposes I want with or without your permission.

second, this isn’t genAI, it’s no different than the text-to-speech system that’s been in use in PC for decades. don’t come in here moaning about genAI when you don’t even know what the system you’re talking about even is.

the voice actors were paid to create the text-to-speech system, yes. that was why they were hired in the first place.

There is imo only two ethic ways

well, ethics aren’t subjective, morals are. and there’s nothing unethical about what they’re doing here.

Lmao get fucked Nintendo

This bias towards being critical of where something is from is entirely justified.

it’s funny how that argument is exactly the same one people use to justify racism. seeing as how the dev provided proof it wasn’t AI generated, the argument is just as fucking stupid in this context as it it with racists.

everything is AI generated these days, especially the artists whose art you don’t like

the cool thing here is you can, you know, do something about your own biases

Y’all need to read what CSAM is. Questionable or objectionable art isn’t CSAM in the same sense that drawing a murder isn’t murder and drawing Noncon isn’t rape.

it’s literally legally defined as CSAM in most western countries. and I probably wouldn’t be arguing otherwise, since it looks like the other dude who did that got all his posts deleted by the mod.

if one of the builds for your game contains CSAM, then I don’t really give a shit what alternative builds you have, I don’t want to play anything made by you. kudos to Valve for not dealing with pedophiles.

CSAM is literally why the game was banned from Steam.

GOG and Itch sell mostly windows games.

It was a child doing pony play, riding a naked adult man-horse. The dev claimed it was not sexual.

I don’t think gaming needs CSAM to be a “unique art form”, but you do you.

you’re gonna have the vim users grabbing their pitchforks if you don’t watch it.

whether he is or isn’t, they saw a chance to create a huge amount of good PR for Valve while doing and spending absolutely nothing. I mean, look at the amount of upvotes this post has. all they had to do is take what appears to be a principled stand.

what a shame.

Yeah, I like the game but have the same problem. I’m just not good at the avoiding damage part.

But at least you can still enjoy the lore. There’s Mechwarrior books as well.

how bout u

why do you think it’ll be crippled?

I think I might want to get one of those controllers. the trackpads on the Steam Deck were way better than I was expecting.

I’m just shocked any publisher is still doing QA at all, with the state AAA games release in these days.

I mean, we’re all being pedantic, aren’t we? honestly, I don’t even know why we wasted the time we have on this lmao. for me it’s probably because I’m working and bored to death.

that could refer to an agency. when somebody says they “hired a plumber”, it isn’t an incorrect statement if that company employs multiple plumbers, despite the quote being singular.

Is implying plurality exaggerating things to begin with in this context? The headline is pretty vague, it doesn’t overtly exaggerate. It makes a pretty simple statement without embellishing anything.

But if we’re going to get into the weeds, we don’t know how many private investigators work at whatever agency they hired, or how many were involved in tracking this person down.