I mean if you can’t have a gigayacht what even is the point of being a billionaire. And then letting a magazine write an article about it so all the other billionaires know you’re flexing on them. I mean the guy deserves the basics at least.
Funny, I was just reading about this sort of thing in “How to blow up a pipeline”. It’s the sort of argument that seems obvious in retrospect.
When someone in the global south uses a coal stove to cook their food, they’re doing it by necessity. When a billionaire sails out on a mega yacht, it’s pure excess. Yeah, banning them won’t make the difference between 1.5C and 2.0C of global warming, but it’s low hanging fruit.
We can also ban private jets, and the only significant impact to the economy would be that some billionaires have to travel around in first class like some kind of lowly multimillionaire or upgraded plebian.
It does not matter if you think Valve makes good products or not.
To be fair, if I had the money, I’d get a yacht to get out of society as well. I would gladly sail out to sea as long as possible, and plan things from there.
I can see how banning might be controversial, but I sure wish they’d tax the hell out of them. Make that yacht not a million, but 10 or 100, a billion. Give that tax money to services like healthcare or UBI. I can see unique perks to yachts, if you genuinely want one as a dream I’m not gonna stop you, just commit to that being the dream you want.
In practise I can see how politicans would (or do) just use that money for themselves anyway…
Gabe is a pretty good billionaire. He has made a lot of people happy. He doesn’t spend his money trying to manipulate society. I think Gabe deserves a new yacht.
Yes, he’s the president of Valve, not the CEO of multiple online casinos for underage customers. Those generally are not based in the US in the first place.
You don’t know what he does in the dark. You don’t know the decisions he makes, the moves he pays for, or the things he does. You only see a very small amount of his actual life.
Can’t remember a single Valve game that is $60 (today $80?) that has a Battle Pass, built in micro transactions that are pay-to-win, half-assed DLCs that should’ve been in base game, or a game being unfinished mess on release.
Valve is not a saint. But even with lootboxes they bring way more good to gaming industry in comparison to literally any other gaming company.
You realize people can’t choose if they are addicted to gambling right? It’s the same as any addiction.
Most people don’t even realize they have a problem until they have hit rock bottom.
Gambling addictions have very high suicide ideation and suicide attempt rates. The exact numbers seem ti vary from study to study but I haven’t found any with percentages below double digits.
Gambling addictions are not uncommon either, with 1-3% of the general population being affected [Wikipedia]. Risk factors include starting young and online gambling by the way. Guess who encourages both?
If I had to guess, thousands of people have committed suicide at least partially due to Valve. “Partially” because case gambling could’ve been the entry into other forms of gambling that cemented gambling addictions.
Because not everyone is young enough to have just gotten into computers at a time when there’s actual Linux compatibility with a significant percentage of software…
They are anti-developer (though dev opinions differ), but most people aren’t affected by the anti-consumer stuff. The only instances I know are censorship with niche visual novels and case gambling (and things like crashing CSGO economy sound like good things in that regard), unless there’s more I don’t know.
Contrast this to Nintendo just saying throwing lawsuits everywhere, among other things.
They had to be forced into allowing refunds. They’re pretty shit with dealing with hacked accounts. Their forced price parity rules effectively raise prices across the industry.
Other companies being worse doesn’t make this one defacto good.
Cat shit is not the same as elephant shit. Contents are different and there is a enormous difference in amounts. Would you rather have an elephant shit in your house of a cat shit in a litterbox in your house?
Yup, that’s part of the deal: cat shit is preferable over elephant shit. The other part is that cat shit is still shit, and it’s still undesirable.
Now look at the discussion in this thread. Gabe Newell is cat shit; some comments are trying to defend him as not shit, some trying to pretend his behaviour is exactly as bad as elephant shit (your typical billionaire). Between a billionaire like Newell spending money on a research yacht versus one like Musk fuelling some random dictatorship, Newell is preferable. And he’s still undesirable as any of those money-hoarding psychopaths.
Why is everyone acting surprised, this has been Gabe’s thing for a long time? He’s super into boats and submarines and owns a submarine company or something like that. i think I’m burned out from the news cycle, getting outraged by this just feels like a waste of my emotional energy that I could spend somewhere it will matter.
Nah, he’s another rich guy. I don’t play video games anymore, don’t really care. Fuck gaben. But also rich guy continues to pursue his boat hobby just doesn’t feel like news, and definitely not news that it’s productive to be upset about. What do I get out of being angry at Gabe for buying another boat? Nothing, and being angry about seems to be making my life worse not better.
I hate Elon, Trump and Bezos for reasons other than their expensive hobbies tbf. The company Gabe runs may have what is essentially a monopoly, but it doesn’t engage in monopolistic practices and it gives a lot back to the community, especially if you’re a Linux gamer.
EGS just sucks and Sweeney himself said he’s not interested in improving it, except by paying for exclusives. Which is funny, because Epic Games used to be pretty great for the gaming industry - with their grants and stuff. GOG is cool, but often publishers don’t want to sell their newer games without DRM. Steam is just the de facto best experience for buying games.
Because a lot of them are bots hoping to hurt valve’s hardware line. Not sure if it’s Microsoft or Epic Games that’s paying for them, but you can tell both are getting panicked about the announcements and are splashing money around.
This is how I find out that he has a yacht called “Rocinante”.
I couldn’t find the date where Gaben bought it, but the boat was originally built in 2008 and for someone else, so I guess I don’t know if Gaben is a “The Expanse” fan or just a fan of “Don Quixote”. I’d prefer the former.
Anywho… #EatTheRich
🎵 I set a course just east of Lyra
And northwest of Pegasus
Flew into the light of Deneb
Sailed across the Milky Way
On my ship, the ‘Rocinante’
Wheeling through the galaxies
Headed for the heart of Cygnus
Headlong into mystery 🎵
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15 gaming PCs, now that’s just too many.
On his 7th yacht.
I’m a Steam user…dammit now what? Sail into a Beaufort 12 storm with that colossal waste of everything.
Y’all paid for this. He should make room for you too.
I mean if you can’t have a gigayacht what even is the point of being a billionaire. And then letting a magazine write an article about it so all the other billionaires know you’re flexing on them. I mean the guy deserves the basics at least.
Funny, I was just reading about this sort of thing in “How to blow up a pipeline”. It’s the sort of argument that seems obvious in retrospect.
When someone in the global south uses a coal stove to cook their food, they’re doing it by necessity. When a billionaire sails out on a mega yacht, it’s pure excess. Yeah, banning them won’t make the difference between 1.5C and 2.0C of global warming, but it’s low hanging fruit.
We can also ban private jets, and the only significant impact to the economy would be that some billionaires have to travel around in first class like some kind of lowly multimillionaire or upgraded plebian.
It does not matter if you think Valve makes good products or not.
Love your balanced take. Thanks for not taking about eating out guillotining humans my friend. :)
To be fair, if I had the money, I’d get a yacht to get out of society as well. I would gladly sail out to sea as long as possible, and plan things from there.
It’d be cool if these mandated these things be solar/battery/sail powered.
The fash should bomb the yachts instead of murdering poor people off the coast of venezuela.
I can see how banning might be controversial, but I sure wish they’d tax the hell out of them. Make that yacht not a million, but 10 or 100, a billion. Give that tax money to services like healthcare or UBI. I can see unique perks to yachts, if you genuinely want one as a dream I’m not gonna stop you, just commit to that being the dream you want.
In practise I can see how politicans would (or do) just use that money for themselves anyway…
There are no good billionaires, kids.
Gabe is a pretty good billionaire. He has made a lot of people happy. He doesn’t spend his money trying to manipulate society. I think Gabe deserves a new yacht.
Alright then, he get’s an extra sharp guillotine.
What do we get for musk? Dull and rusty seem too merciful
Frozen excrement blade on a scorching hot day.
Might need a dozen or so blades to get halfway through his neck but the splat after each one will be marvellous.
ViKings the show, the episode titled Blood Eagle. NSFL
A steam hammer https://youtu.be/zb-wWo2kT-w
But it goes down slowly. Very slowly.
Solitary confinement or have Ol’ Musky live like the underclass.
Multiple online casinos for underage customers that he runs disagree.
He doesn’t run them, what nonsense are people pushing now.
Man can’t be responsible for all the nice things in Steam but absolved of creating a lootbox/gambling empire.
No, I mean he literally does not run those. It’s like blaming the bank for ‘running a drug empire’ when someone buys some weed.
Isn’t he CEO of Valve, a company with famously lean amount of staff?
Yes, he’s the president of Valve, not the CEO of multiple online casinos for underage customers. Those generally are not based in the US in the first place.
You don’t know what he does in the dark. You don’t know the decisions he makes, the moves he pays for, or the things he does. You only see a very small amount of his actual life.
Neither is you, or anyone except people he works with and is close to.
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Can’t remember a single Valve game that is $60 (today $80?) that has a Battle Pass, built in micro transactions that are pay-to-win, half-assed DLCs that should’ve been in base game, or a game being unfinished mess on release.
Valve is not a saint. But even with lootboxes they bring way more good to gaming industry in comparison to literally any other gaming company.
Bonus round!
Can you guess a game that has all these 4 points?
Dota has a battle pass and micro transactions
That is purely comestics.
But the money from that goes to professional players that participate in the tournament and to organizers who organize the event.
How much money from battle pass goes to Fortnite/Battlefield/COD pro players?
You didn’t say anything about where the money goes, you just said you can’t recall a Valve game with microtransactions or a battlepass. Dota has both.
If we want to have a discussion about how they spend that money, then I agree, Valve does a much better job than EA or Blizzard or similar
$50 says it’s an EA game
I’LL TAKE THAT…no I won’t take that bet, me thinks!
For cosmetic only items, and in return they let everyone play for free. It doesn’t bother me as a business model.
Says someone without a gambling addiction.
Uh yea. Why would I have a gambling addition. That shit is stupid as fuck.
You realize people can’t choose if they are addicted to gambling right? It’s the same as any addiction. Most people don’t even realize they have a problem until they have hit rock bottom.
Gambling in any way is a problem. It’s a dumb activity which leads only to sadness. There is no safe amount of gambling.
I blame alcoholics for drinking, not brewers for brewing beer.
Gambling disorder is recognized by the DSM, this comment comes across as victim blaming and ableist.
I don’t think monetizing gambling addictions so others can play for free is a great argument.
Gambling addictions have very high suicide ideation and suicide attempt rates. The exact numbers seem ti vary from study to study but I haven’t found any with percentages below double digits.
Gambling addictions are not uncommon either, with 1-3% of the general population being affected [Wikipedia]. Risk factors include starting young and online gambling by the way. Guess who encourages both?
If I had to guess, thousands of people have committed suicide at least partially due to Valve. “Partially” because case gambling could’ve been the entry into other forms of gambling that cemented gambling addictions.
Skill issue.
But there are degrees of how bad they are.
Technically true, but not worth distinguishing.
The guillotine has a methodically designed schedule.
If anarchists could agree on a policy they wouldn’t be anarchists.
Standards are low
Gabe’s company isn’t publicly owned, but he clearly made his billions putting his money into the stock market, probably hedge funds.
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Thats getting away with raping children money.
Why do you think dude loves international waters…
I still don’t get why people go to bat for valve, despite all the anti consumer shit they regularly do.
They enabled my switch to Linux and out of Microsoft’s ecosystem with their investments and technology.
I’d reckon that there are few Valve loyalists, but rather a whole bunch of people grateful for their efforts.
Why were you in the microsoft ecosystem to begin with?
Because not everyone is young enough to have just gotten into computers at a time when there’s actual Linux compatibility with a significant percentage of software…
Like what?
Like offering steam sales that gets people to buy games and end up never play them
Aren’t it the devs who offer sales? Either way you just not buy something you don’t need.
A bit of sarcasm
Because every other gaming company is much worse.
Doesn’t make this one good
No, just less bad.
They are anti-developer (though dev opinions differ), but most people aren’t affected by the anti-consumer stuff. The only instances I know are censorship with niche visual novels and case gambling (and things like crashing CSGO economy sound like good things in that regard), unless there’s more I don’t know.
Contrast this to Nintendo just saying throwing lawsuits everywhere, among other things.
They had to be forced into allowing refunds. They’re pretty shit with dealing with hacked accounts. Their forced price parity rules effectively raise prices across the industry.
Other companies being worse doesn’t make this one defacto good.
Most comments ITT boil down to two things:
Cat shit is not the same as elephant shit. Contents are different and there is a enormous difference in amounts. Would you rather have an elephant shit in your house of a cat shit in a litterbox in your house?
none of it
Yup, that’s part of the deal: cat shit is preferable over elephant shit. The other part is that cat shit is still shit, and it’s still undesirable.
Now look at the discussion in this thread. Gabe Newell is cat shit; some comments are trying to defend him as not shit, some trying to pretend his behaviour is exactly as bad as elephant shit (your typical billionaire). Between a billionaire like Newell spending money on a research yacht versus one like Musk fuelling some random dictatorship, Newell is preferable. And he’s still undesirable as any of those money-hoarding psychopaths.
Good thing I have toxoplasmosis
Elephant shit for you then :)
(just kidding.)
No sarcasm, pure sincerity, that was a beautifully eloquent comment, kudos.
I suppose we can be reassured that the Obscene Yacht industry is still going strong despite the cost of living crisis.
Pretty sure we’re all wasting our lives serving capital in order to keep the obscene yachts on the seas.
USA should be more honest and switch from GDP to GOYP.
Most Obscene Yachts don’t come from the US anyway
Why is everyone acting surprised, this has been Gabe’s thing for a long time? He’s super into boats and submarines and owns a submarine company or something like that. i think I’m burned out from the news cycle, getting outraged by this just feels like a waste of my emotional energy that I could spend somewhere it will matter.
Rich man buys rich people stuff. Wow that’s crazy news.
Never stops being disgusting.
That or you won’t outrage against your god Gabe.
“ Elon, trump, bezos, sure fuck those guys, but I don’t have the energy to say fuck Gabe! “
Nah, he’s another rich guy. I don’t play video games anymore, don’t really care. Fuck gaben. But also rich guy continues to pursue his boat hobby just doesn’t feel like news, and definitely not news that it’s productive to be upset about. What do I get out of being angry at Gabe for buying another boat? Nothing, and being angry about seems to be making my life worse not better.
I hate Elon, Trump and Bezos for reasons other than their expensive hobbies tbf. The company Gabe runs may have what is essentially a monopoly, but it doesn’t engage in monopolistic practices and it gives a lot back to the community, especially if you’re a Linux gamer.
EGS just sucks and Sweeney himself said he’s not interested in improving it, except by paying for exclusives. Which is funny, because Epic Games used to be pretty great for the gaming industry - with their grants and stuff. GOG is cool, but often publishers don’t want to sell their newer games without DRM. Steam is just the de facto best experience for buying games.
Because a lot of them are bots hoping to hurt valve’s hardware line. Not sure if it’s Microsoft or Epic Games that’s paying for them, but you can tell both are getting panicked about the announcements and are splashing money around.
This is how I find out that he has a yacht called “Rocinante”.
I couldn’t find the date where Gaben bought it, but the boat was originally built in 2008 and for someone else, so I guess I don’t know if Gaben is a “The Expanse” fan or just a fan of “Don Quixote”. I’d prefer the former.
Anywho… #EatTheRich
If it’s the latter, at least it’s self deprecating
Might equally be a Rush fan.
🎵 I set a course just east of Lyra
And northwest of Pegasus
Flew into the light of Deneb
Sailed across the Milky Way
On my ship, the ‘Rocinante’
Wheeling through the galaxies
Headed for the heart of Cygnus
Headlong into mystery 🎵
I’ve thought he was a piece of shit ever since he tried to monetize modding. He was so out of line, even redditors downvoted him to hell.
I buy from gog or directly from the dev nowadays.