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Ok jokes aside, let me actually answer this properly.
I’ve been a developer for years before AI existed as a mainstream tool, so the foundation isn’t going anywhere. Do I use it? Absolutely. Do I depend on it to think for me? No. There’s a pretty big difference between using AI as a companion that speeds up your workflow and blindly letting it generate a game for you. One requires you to already know what you’re doing. The other just produces slop.
The reality is: AI is only as useful as the person driving it. If you don’t have a clear vision, strong technical knowledge, and the ability to catch mistakes, you’ll end up with hallucinations dressed up as features and believe me, those are always lurking. You still need to understand every system, every design decision, every line of code. AI doesn’t replace that. It just means I can get from point A to point B faster without sacrificing quality.
Now, the pitch specifically? Yeah, I’ll be fully honest here AI was genuinely a huge help with that. Not because it invented the ideas. Every mechanic, every design pillar, every dependency between specializations that came from months of thinking, designing, and iterating in my head. But translating all of that into something structured, readable, and coherent for people who aren’t inside my brain? That’s where AI earned its keep. It helped me formalize things I was taking for granted and present them in a way that actually makes sense to someone reading it cold.
So yes, AI helped write the pitch. No, AI isn’t building the game. There’s your answer.
AI generated text generates distrust, and I generally view it as a form of disrespect, a waste of time imposed onto others.
If you’re unable to go without it, at least write the text yourself and use it to see if anything is missing or unclear, without rephrasing. Ideally don’t use it at all. You say it’s helpful but all it has done is deviate the conversation and alienate an audience.
Genuine question, not rhetorical: is a rough, unpolished pitch actually more respectable than a structured one, just because no AI touched it? I’m honestly curious about the reasoning there.
My take is that the ideas the design decisions, the systems all of that came from my head, not a prompt. AI helped me organize and present them clearly. If the same thoughts were written in half-broken sentences with no structure, would the content be more trustworthy? Or just harder to read?
Also worth noting every reply in this thread, including this one, is me. No AI, just typing here. If the concern is about respect for the reader’s time, I’d argue that trying to engage genuinely with every comment counts for something.
I do hear the broader point thougth. AI-generated content has burned a lot of people and the distrust is completely earned at this point. I’m not dismissing that. I just don’t think using a tool to structure your own ideas is the same thing as having a machine think for you but I get why the line feels blurry from the outside.
No it’s not a clumsy poorly worded pitch is just as “disrespectful”.
Your just on lemmy aka the place with people more up their own asshole licking the inside of their colon then reddit.
The avg iq here may be higher than reddit, but the amount of stupid motherfuckers full of themselves is even higher.
Your pitch is fine, as long as your clear about your llm usage. The scope of your project and goals. And have correct and well communicated disclaimers. Then the only people who are goanna be pissy about it are the shit fucks that arnt worth listening to.
Your code is your own and that’s what matters. You put in the work and are sharing and or selling the fruits of your own labor.
Llms are literally there to be word generators. The two things they are actually good for is making large blocks of text that are easily understandable and translations. You used a tool in a manner that’s actually correct in its strengths.
It would be preferable if you at least used a local llm instead of something like chat gpt. Just to help offset the environmental impact even if it is just a little bit.
You’re right that Lemmy is new territory for me still learning the culture and clearly stepped on some landmines along the way.
On LLMs I’m pretty firm in my position: useful only when you already know what you’re doing, only to move faster, and absolutely not a replacement for understanding your own work. And they get it wrong constantly even then which is exactly why you need to be able to read, write, build and debug without them first.
Local models I’m fully on board with in principle. The environmental point is well taken. The problem I keep running into is that for actual coding tasks, the local options that are genuinely good enough still want a GPU setup that costs more than a full datacenter expecially now with the RAM shortage. If you have any recommendations on that front though models, setups, anything that punches above its weight I’m all ears. Seriously.
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The game won’t be AI slop, i’ve covered that pretty thoroughly in a comment above if you want the full breakdown.
But hey, thanks for comment by either way!
Haha yeah, the name. I noticed the… problem… somewhere between brainstorming and actually building everything out. At that point you’re already attached to it and renaming feels like surgery. Not ruling out a change down the road though, fair point.
On the P2W thing I hear you, but I genuinely don’t think “stuff costs money” automatically means you have to sell power. Riot built an absolute empire off cosmetics alone. League, Valorant billions in revenue, zero mechanical advantage sold. Is it easy to pull off? Hell no. Does it require a much stronger design discipline and a game people actually want to spend time in? Yes. But it’s been proven to work at massive scale. My bet is that players in 2025 are more willing to pay for identity and cosmetics than most developers give them credit for. I’d rather build something worth paying for than sell shortcuts.
As for the website you’re completely right that it’s bare, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise. But here’s the thing: I made a deliberate call not to fill it with AI-generated art or Figma mockups just to make it look like something it isn’t yet. As a player myself, I’m genuinely tired of seeing gorgeous trailers and promo images that have zero relationship to the actual game. It’s become almost a meme at this point. When I have real gameplay, real screenshots, real footage that’s when I’ll show something. Authentic over polished-but-fake, every time.
So yeah the site is bare because the game isn’t done. That’s kind of the honest version of game development nobody likes to show.
As a player myself, I’m genuinely tired of seeing gorgeous trailers and promo images that have zero relationship to the actual game. It’s become almost a meme at this point. When I have real gameplay, real screenshots, real footage that’s when I’ll show something. Authentic over polished-but-fake, every time.
Sure, I get that, but right now what the public can see is just the idea, as written text with like 2 pages. It’s the concept of a game. And it’s a decent concept, but there is nothing else there yet.
Yeah, totally fair right now it’s just words on a page, I get it.
But that’s kind of exactly why I’m posting here instead of disappearing into a basement for two years and reappearing with a finished game nobody asked for. I’d rather show the concept early, collect real feedback from people who actually play these kinds of games, and build something that reflects what the community wants not just what sounds good in my own head.
So if you’ve got thoughts on what’s missing or what doesn’t work, genuinely interested to hear it.
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Did you use as much AI to write the game as you did this pitch?
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Ok jokes aside, let me actually answer this properly. I’ve been a developer for years before AI existed as a mainstream tool, so the foundation isn’t going anywhere. Do I use it? Absolutely. Do I depend on it to think for me? No. There’s a pretty big difference between using AI as a companion that speeds up your workflow and blindly letting it generate a game for you. One requires you to already know what you’re doing. The other just produces slop.
The reality is: AI is only as useful as the person driving it. If you don’t have a clear vision, strong technical knowledge, and the ability to catch mistakes, you’ll end up with hallucinations dressed up as features and believe me, those are always lurking. You still need to understand every system, every design decision, every line of code. AI doesn’t replace that. It just means I can get from point A to point B faster without sacrificing quality.
Now, the pitch specifically? Yeah, I’ll be fully honest here AI was genuinely a huge help with that. Not because it invented the ideas. Every mechanic, every design pillar, every dependency between specializations that came from months of thinking, designing, and iterating in my head. But translating all of that into something structured, readable, and coherent for people who aren’t inside my brain? That’s where AI earned its keep. It helped me formalize things I was taking for granted and present them in a way that actually makes sense to someone reading it cold.
So yes, AI helped write the pitch. No, AI isn’t building the game. There’s your answer.
AI generated text generates distrust, and I generally view it as a form of disrespect, a waste of time imposed onto others.
If you’re unable to go without it, at least write the text yourself and use it to see if anything is missing or unclear, without rephrasing. Ideally don’t use it at all. You say it’s helpful but all it has done is deviate the conversation and alienate an audience.
Genuine question, not rhetorical: is a rough, unpolished pitch actually more respectable than a structured one, just because no AI touched it? I’m honestly curious about the reasoning there.
My take is that the ideas the design decisions, the systems all of that came from my head, not a prompt. AI helped me organize and present them clearly. If the same thoughts were written in half-broken sentences with no structure, would the content be more trustworthy? Or just harder to read?
Also worth noting every reply in this thread, including this one, is me. No AI, just typing here. If the concern is about respect for the reader’s time, I’d argue that trying to engage genuinely with every comment counts for something.
I do hear the broader point thougth. AI-generated content has burned a lot of people and the distrust is completely earned at this point. I’m not dismissing that. I just don’t think using a tool to structure your own ideas is the same thing as having a machine think for you but I get why the line feels blurry from the outside.
No it’s not a clumsy poorly worded pitch is just as “disrespectful”.
Your just on lemmy aka the place with people more up their own asshole licking the inside of their colon then reddit.
The avg iq here may be higher than reddit, but the amount of stupid motherfuckers full of themselves is even higher.
Your pitch is fine, as long as your clear about your llm usage. The scope of your project and goals. And have correct and well communicated disclaimers. Then the only people who are goanna be pissy about it are the shit fucks that arnt worth listening to.
Your code is your own and that’s what matters. You put in the work and are sharing and or selling the fruits of your own labor.
Llms are literally there to be word generators. The two things they are actually good for is making large blocks of text that are easily understandable and translations. You used a tool in a manner that’s actually correct in its strengths.
It would be preferable if you at least used a local llm instead of something like chat gpt. Just to help offset the environmental impact even if it is just a little bit.
Genuinely appreciate this, thank you.
You’re right that Lemmy is new territory for me still learning the culture and clearly stepped on some landmines along the way.
On LLMs I’m pretty firm in my position: useful only when you already know what you’re doing, only to move faster, and absolutely not a replacement for understanding your own work. And they get it wrong constantly even then which is exactly why you need to be able to read, write, build and debug without them first.
Local models I’m fully on board with in principle. The environmental point is well taken. The problem I keep running into is that for actual coding tasks, the local options that are genuinely good enough still want a GPU setup that costs more than a full datacenter expecially now with the RAM shortage. If you have any recommendations on that front though models, setups, anything that punches above its weight I’m all ears. Seriously.
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How low does your self confidence have to be you couldn’t even write this yourself?
You probably had a high adoption audience here, some of whom would have been good beta testers. All they need is for you to treat them with respect.
To paraphrase you to you: the dev is only as good as how well they know when to use LLM and when to just be human.
I don’t play AI slop.
The game won’t be AI slop, i’ve covered that pretty thoroughly in a comment above if you want the full breakdown. But hey, thanks for comment by either way!
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“seedlord” is bad enough by itself btw.
Seriously though, I like the approach, but the reason games do that RMT pay to win stuff is because stuff costs money.
I’m not really interested in browser games. The concept with the economy sounds good, but the website is very “bare”, no images, no videos, etc…
Haha yeah, the name. I noticed the… problem… somewhere between brainstorming and actually building everything out. At that point you’re already attached to it and renaming feels like surgery. Not ruling out a change down the road though, fair point.
On the P2W thing I hear you, but I genuinely don’t think “stuff costs money” automatically means you have to sell power. Riot built an absolute empire off cosmetics alone. League, Valorant billions in revenue, zero mechanical advantage sold. Is it easy to pull off? Hell no. Does it require a much stronger design discipline and a game people actually want to spend time in? Yes. But it’s been proven to work at massive scale. My bet is that players in 2025 are more willing to pay for identity and cosmetics than most developers give them credit for. I’d rather build something worth paying for than sell shortcuts.
As for the website you’re completely right that it’s bare, and I’m not going to pretend otherwise. But here’s the thing: I made a deliberate call not to fill it with AI-generated art or Figma mockups just to make it look like something it isn’t yet. As a player myself, I’m genuinely tired of seeing gorgeous trailers and promo images that have zero relationship to the actual game. It’s become almost a meme at this point. When I have real gameplay, real screenshots, real footage that’s when I’ll show something. Authentic over polished-but-fake, every time.
So yeah the site is bare because the game isn’t done. That’s kind of the honest version of game development nobody likes to show.
Sure, I get that, but right now what the public can see is just the idea, as written text with like 2 pages. It’s the concept of a game. And it’s a decent concept, but there is nothing else there yet.
Yeah, totally fair right now it’s just words on a page, I get it.
But that’s kind of exactly why I’m posting here instead of disappearing into a basement for two years and reappearing with a finished game nobody asked for. I’d rather show the concept early, collect real feedback from people who actually play these kinds of games, and build something that reflects what the community wants not just what sounds good in my own head.
So if you’ve got thoughts on what’s missing or what doesn’t work, genuinely interested to hear it.