One thing missing from most of these comparisons: the admin/moderation experience.
Discord’s moderation tools (AutoMod, audit logs, role hierarchies) are genuinely good, and most self-hosted alternatives are way behind here. If you’re running a community server, this matters a lot.
My ranking for communities (not just friend groups):
Matrix (Synapse/Conduit) — best moderation tools of the self-hosted options, rooms/spaces model works well
Revolt — closest Discord clone, but moderation is still basic
Mumble/TeamSpeak — voice-only, but rock solid for gaming guilds that don’t need text
For just friends? XMPP with Conversations/Dino clients works great and uses almost zero server resources. I run an ejabberd instance on a $5 VPS alongside 5 other services.
TeamSpeak 6 has been on my radar too. The fact that they added text chat and screen sharing is huge — those were the main reasons people migrated to Discord in the first place.
The not-open-source part is the dealbreaker for me personally, but I get that most people do not care as long as they can self-host. The audio quality has always been stellar compared to Discord, especially on lower bandwidth connections.
Curious if they have improved the permission system. TS3 permissions were powerful but absurdly complicated to configure.
Because Discord isn’t just for friend groups, it’s also for large open-entry servers open to the wider userbase. Slack-based/group chat alternatives completely lack this.
Not sure about slack alternatives, but Slack does have topic/general servers that people can join. SInce its mostly business/work targeted, a lot of these are tech focused (like for k8s, or pytorch)
That may be so, but my group of 4 has been using it for voice, text, and screen share, with almost zero issues. (Except a couple sync issues that fixed itself in a day) We are working on getting off the matrix.org server soon though.
I’m surprised actually how good its been. I am sure the small glitch we had is because we are on matrix.org. need to move soon. My friend set up our room without me and didn’t understand that you don’t just use the matrix.org server …explaining how matrix works is hard to non nerds.
I usually explain it like email, most people get it then. Doesn’t matter if you’re using @outlook.com or @gmail.com when sending an email, you can talk to users on either as long as you specify the server address (which is mandatory in email anyway).
Yes same!! They just get confused on what a server is. They dont get that our room on matrix.org is not a server. And what is matrix vs their clients like element commet fluffychat…I try to explain its the client vs the protocol but then I get called a big old nerd 😁
What misleading things? I have been running a server for almost a year and no issues at all. All features of Discord work for me in matrix with the right setup. Hard part is getting friend groups to migrate, had decent luck but its an uphill battle for sure getting people to use another app/service. Power of defaults is strong
If you thought I was referring to ease of use, that’s not what I was referring to. If you are treating it as just another Discord, then you probably don’t have to worry about what I was referring to.
I run my own server for friends and family. And there are more abd more optional addons that may have made that server suite a more sane place to start when selfhosting. I have not evaluated it tho, but thought you should know about it.
Is the idea to make it easier? Cause I am also setting up matrix atm. I don’t use kubernetes though. Or is the idea that it will be maybe perfectly aligned with the element client?
Afaik there is a docker compose as well. It is probably all of the above. Alignment with elements seems like it just by the name. And easier setupbif you want all the bells and whistles you can add onto matrix.
For some that might be a bad thingnif it exclude some clients. While other wsnt the features.
Why ask, when you are already sure enough? I’ll be replying to the people who seem genuinely interested privately eventually, not really looking to engage in a fight about whether your religion really is or isn’t perfect. I also have no obligation to inform the people it is most effective against. However, I will tell you, because you are a genius level individual and know the full intricacies of the platform, you and anyone else at your level are fully immune.
Then he shouldn’t be a moron and downvote the person he wants a response from. It is a stupid response, it is not my job to tell him or you my opinion, because it is that.
People will easily dismiss it if I provide any more details because they are just too smart for it, while people whom my comment made more cautious will be less likely to fall into a false sense of security. Be sure to have a beef with the dozens of people who also didn’t seem to need any clarification. I don’t need to get into the name-calling war zealots like you are eager for.
If you are sure, you are sure, why so mad? I can tell you it isn’t some deep hidden zero day exploit, if that makes you feel any less hostile. It won’t, because people like you read “misleading”, and literally thought “hah, probably wouldn’t be misleading to me!” and are just trying to farm a response you can object to - the “stupid response” all but confirms this intent.
I also don’t need to prove anything to anyone else. Just being aware there’s an issue will make them much more cautious, and that’s largely what’s needed.
Some of my friends have registered on Flux but still use discord. It’s sort of just there until discord makes it unbearable for them to use but discord will never do that. They’ll just slowly tighten the noose until you get comfortable.
when my nitro expired, I was astonished how much basic functionality was locked behind that paywall. The vanilla experience is so unpleasant.
Meanwhile on stoat, there is no subscription and most of discord’s paid features are just… features. Sure, stoat is janky as balls, but so was discord when it was new.
Higher upload limit for game clips/highlights. OBS didn’t handle transcoding the stream down to a lower resolution without hitting the GPU hard enough to make the game stuttery
Higher stream resolution/fps. This mattered less to me as the homies aged and played games less frequently
Use the obnoxious custom emoji reactions between servers. I could upload some real egregious shit on a test server and use it in the homie server
This is one of the reasons these “let’s replace Discord” threads are so tricky. I use Discord basically every day, and heavily twice a week for games nights with two different groups, for 6 years. I’m in there. And I have never uploaded a clip or streamed anything, so I never considered that this might be something people want, or are using the platform for. And I’ve seen a few custom emoji around, but never considered using some dude’s emoji in a different group’s chat.
So it’s wild how different people are using it, and getting one replacement to do all of it is a big ask!
lots of customization options for both the interface and your profile, but more important to most people is being able to use emojis/stickers from your subscribed servers everywhere on the platform. This might seem petty, but there’s no other software that I regularly use that requires me to pay in order to for example, change the theme of the interface.
edit: that does not include the stuff that I knew I was paying for and was on purpose paying for, like better stream quality and larger upload size and extra shit for my server.
Yeeah… Noble effort, really. Except people don’t give enough of a shit to actually move.
I’ve arranged for a Matrix space and Teamspeak server to be used for my friend Discord of about 100 people. 10 registered and 0 actually use the Matrix.
The bridged Matrix channel is only used for lighthearted spam from the Discord side.
The Teamspeak got like 6 registrations and 0 active users.
Most people won’t budge until they see the ID verification screen, and some not even then.
My discord group had discussions about stopping discord use for weeks. I kept saying “if no one comes up with a better idea, I’ll go back to IRC.” The discussion didn’t move anywhere, I told them that by the end of February, I’ll go to IRC and delete my account. End of February came, I said “alright, IRC installed, I’ll be at X network, I made a channel called Y, see you there.” Then I deleted my account.
Three people followed me but they also stayed in discord. They tell me that everyone over there is surprised that I did what I told them for weeks that I would do lol.
But anyway, I’ve experienced this before. I left facebook in 2011, I lost contact with about 80% of the people I knew, because apparently calling, Whatsapp/SMS is not good enough. Then I left Whatsapp for Signal. I have 2 contacts there…
I’ve come to the conclusion that most people just don’t care about privacy and big corporations controlling shit. I wont be a part of that silly bollocks.
Yup. I don’t need 20 people to talk to. A few is enough. And I found a nice IRC channel with a lot of nice new people anyways. If the others want to stay in Discord, fine by me. Of course it helps that the people on Discord were not IRL friends that I’ve known since childhood. I lost those years ago =D
I am not as gung-ho on irc, most of my friend group just hangs out in audio channels and such.
But yeah, I cancelled my nitro after 6+ years when they clearly started enshittifying with the “quests” popups and other shite I had no interest in seeing and of course the IPO talks looming sometime last year or the year before.
Yeah it was pretty easy for me to switch to IRC because I have never liked audio/video chat stuff. I tried that once or twice with a very small group, I think I said 10 words all in all. I’m not a talker lol
I don’t think making these other programs optional is going to work to migrate a community. You can’t say to your football team that you’re gonna start playing basketball and be disappointed when they don’t come with you.
If the discord and matrix server was fully bridge then maybe you’d are a bit more success as the community would be less fractured. If you’re friends don’t want to move from discord, and you really don’t want to be in discord, that’s a tough situation for you be in.
I spent quite a lot of effort getting Stoat up and running because they aren’t working on the selfhosted version, only to get a nice email from the German government that my server was running an outdated version of React with RCE vulnerabilities. Nuked that stack at 3am.
Also I fixed their Tenor integration to be provider agnostic so the self-hoster could choose a different gif provider like klipy (Tenor turned off their API so gif search in Stoat is broken), tried to contribute that one small change back to the main project, immediately rejected because “we have no plans for klipy support”.
Did you guys also consider Fluxer? I tried Stoat first, but the main instance is really slow and there are some video features disabled due to high cost. Which is totally fair.
Fluxer seems to have more features and their main instance is a lot snappier. They’re also accepting donations via Plutonium. Which seems to be helping with the server costs.
Both are AGPLv3, with Fluxer recently saying they’re gonna remove their CLA so that it’s true Open Source.
Worth noting that the Plutonium subscription of Fluxer is irrelevant if you self host - you will have all features available and unlocked for free.
For me this sounds like a perfect compromise. “Discord Nitro” style monetisation is effective and compelling and like it or not a true competitor needs a revenue stream from somewhere and I have serious doubts about the viability of donation-only monetisation at this scale.
In my eyes, the only sensible way of building such a platform at scale is having it be federated. Otherwise you can host a server - and if you’re unlucky, might need accounts on five servers to access all the groups you want.
If their federation implementation comes relatively prompt and is workable, that’s great. If not, it feels like a way to bootstrap a centralised alternative to discord. Pre-enshitification discord, but it’d again be up to a single entity whether it stays that way.
I don’t mind paying for hosting, but I don’t want to jump from one centralised platform to the next.
Federation is on the 2026 roadmap for Fluxer, and while I’m sceptical they pull it off in that timeframe Hampus (the developer) has stated it to be a high priority for the project. Fluxer is also open source, which Discord never was. If it takes off and Hampus goes evil corpo it can be forked.
Yeah, I guess you’re right actually. You pay money and get more features. I tend to think of subscriptions for Open Source more as donations, but Fluxer is a little different.
But, yeah, like someone else said, you can self-host and not pay anything and get access to everything. Did I mention it’s fully Open Source without a CLA?!
It is, and that makes it much better than Discord, but currently they’re mostly building another monolith on the central instance. Self-hosting doesn’t mean much if the communities are all on there.
I’ll wait for federation, hope it comes soon. Till then, I see more potential in Matrix.
Bringing in age-ID verification that they had to apply in the UK and Australia globally for all accounts to access NSFW channels and to be able to take the baby filter off of DMs.
They got heavy backlash for it, and have now delayed it.
They have publicly rolled back this particular effort. It’s extraordinarily likely that this will resurface in a few months with a different coat of paint.
Not to defend discord, they’re plenty shitty, but the core ID verification premise may be out of their hands, based on the surge in legislation on the topic globally.
stoat has a lot of new platform jank, but remember discord was just as bad when it was new but we loved it anyway because it was better than everything else at the time. Personally I’m willing to sacrifice some convenience for the sake of privacy and security.
Agreed but audio notifications are pretty much the single most important thing I am looking for. I would actually love to use Stoat but for me it’s IRC atm.
I dont think there are any federated chat systems with support for group calls and screensharing besides matrix. Maybe xmpp but i think its not natively implemented and more of a client add on. Matrix still misses some things (like sharing application audio) but its the best we got if you dont want to get caught in another unfederated enshittification spiral.
i love stoat, free, open, can self host, just enough features compared to discord for it to be viable
still using discord since a lot of things i use depend on discord for many things, though.
and if you haven’t seen, there’s stoat to discord and vice versa bridges.
My closests friendgroup dispersed around the province, one in kelowna, one in enderby, and im out on the Coast now. Discord (and now steam chat) kept us close
I kinda wish the fediverse had started with an account system which could then be integrated with various servers. It would concentrate on just keeping account configs where new services had new tab areas or such. Then you could have the services instances that would authtenticate and use the login configs for view and such. of course many instances would do multiple things but it would be so great to go to mastadon and have it interact with the same fediverse account as what I would use at lemming or peertube.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
No Let’s Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates.
(Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources.
If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)
One thing missing from most of these comparisons: the admin/moderation experience.
Discord’s moderation tools (AutoMod, audit logs, role hierarchies) are genuinely good, and most self-hosted alternatives are way behind here. If you’re running a community server, this matters a lot.
My ranking for communities (not just friend groups):
For just friends? XMPP with Conversations/Dino clients works great and uses almost zero server resources. I run an ejabberd instance on a $5 VPS alongside 5 other services.
Teamspeak 6 is looking reaaaally promising. Text chat, screen sharing, webcam support. Self hostable, not open source tho.
Looking forward to the first full release
TeamSpeak 6 has been on my radar too. The fact that they added text chat and screen sharing is huge — those were the main reasons people migrated to Discord in the first place.
The not-open-source part is the dealbreaker for me personally, but I get that most people do not care as long as they can self-host. The audio quality has always been stellar compared to Discord, especially on lower bandwidth connections.
Curious if they have improved the permission system. TS3 permissions were powerful but absurdly complicated to configure.
I did not get the permissions so far
Lots of daw boolean values where I have no idea what they do
Stupid question: why are they looking for a discord alternative, instead of a group chat/Slack alternative? What am I missing?
Because slack alternatives also have video and audio call integration (either with jitsi or something else) and are battle tested with companies.
Because Discord isn’t just for friend groups, it’s also for large open-entry servers open to the wider userbase. Slack-based/group chat alternatives completely lack this.
Not sure about slack alternatives, but Slack does have topic/general servers that people can join. SInce its mostly business/work targeted, a lot of these are tech focused (like for k8s, or pytorch)
Slack is also paywalled to a laughable level.
true
In my experience, Matrix has a lot of misleading functionalities that drive people into enough of a false sense of security to out themselves.
That may be so, but my group of 4 has been using it for voice, text, and screen share, with almost zero issues. (Except a couple sync issues that fixed itself in a day) We are working on getting off the matrix.org server soon though.
I’m surprised actually how good its been. I am sure the small glitch we had is because we are on matrix.org. need to move soon. My friend set up our room without me and didn’t understand that you don’t just use the matrix.org server …explaining how matrix works is hard to non nerds.
I usually explain it like email, most people get it then. Doesn’t matter if you’re using @outlook.com or @gmail.com when sending an email, you can talk to users on either as long as you specify the server address (which is mandatory in email anyway).
Yes same!! They just get confused on what a server is. They dont get that our room on matrix.org is not a server. And what is matrix vs their clients like element commet fluffychat…I try to explain its the client vs the protocol but then I get called a big old nerd 😁
Discord warped a lot of minds on terminology.
What misleading things? I have been running a server for almost a year and no issues at all. All features of Discord work for me in matrix with the right setup. Hard part is getting friend groups to migrate, had decent luck but its an uphill battle for sure getting people to use another app/service. Power of defaults is strong
If you thought I was referring to ease of use, that’s not what I was referring to. If you are treating it as just another Discord, then you probably don’t have to worry about what I was referring to.
I’m curious as to what these are, as I’m setting up a matrix server right now.
Have you looked into https://element.io/en/server-suite/community ?
I run my own server for friends and family. And there are more abd more optional addons that may have made that server suite a more sane place to start when selfhosting. I have not evaluated it tho, but thought you should know about it.
Is the idea to make it easier? Cause I am also setting up matrix atm. I don’t use kubernetes though. Or is the idea that it will be maybe perfectly aligned with the element client?
Afaik there is a docker compose as well. It is probably all of the above. Alignment with elements seems like it just by the name. And easier setupbif you want all the bells and whistles you can add onto matrix.
For some that might be a bad thingnif it exclude some clients. While other wsnt the features.
Why would it exclude some clients? Just protocols?
Just based on the names. But I assume things like element call is implementable by other clients as well.
Haven’t heard of it but matrix is a protocol with voice chat so I thought you just use whatever client
What misleading functionalities?
Why ask, when you are already sure enough? I’ll be replying to the people who seem genuinely interested privately eventually, not really looking to engage in a fight about whether your religion really is or isn’t perfect. I also have no obligation to inform the people it is most effective against. However, I will tell you, because you are a genius level individual and know the full intricacies of the platform, you and anyone else at your level are fully immune.
you posted, they asked for quite reasonable clarification. what a stupid response. next time keep it to yourself
Then he shouldn’t be a moron and downvote the person he wants a response from. It is a stupid response, it is not my job to tell him or you my opinion, because it is that.
People will easily dismiss it if I provide any more details because they are just too smart for it, while people whom my comment made more cautious will be less likely to fall into a false sense of security. Be sure to have a beef with the dozens of people who also didn’t seem to need any clarification. I don’t need to get into the name-calling war zealots like you are eager for.
If you are sure, you are sure, why so mad? I can tell you it isn’t some deep hidden zero day exploit, if that makes you feel any less hostile. It won’t, because people like you read “misleading”, and literally thought “hah, probably wouldn’t be misleading to me!” and are just trying to farm a response you can object to - the “stupid response” all but confirms this intent.
I also don’t need to prove anything to anyone else. Just being aware there’s an issue will make them much more cautious, and that’s largely what’s needed.
I didn’t read this. please stop being a nuisance
Seems on par.
What a rude response. Also, you seem to have mistaken me for someone else.
Oh, right you are.
Some of my friends have registered on Flux but still use discord. It’s sort of just there until discord makes it unbearable for them to use but discord will never do that. They’ll just slowly tighten the noose until you get comfortable.
They pay for nitro, which to me is bonkers.
when my nitro expired, I was astonished how much basic functionality was locked behind that paywall. The vanilla experience is so unpleasant.
Meanwhile on stoat, there is no subscription and most of discord’s paid features are just… features. Sure, stoat is janky as balls, but so was discord when it was new.
Genuine question: as someone who has never used Discord’s Nitro, what basic functionality am I missing out on?
There were 2.5 major ones for me:
This is one of the reasons these “let’s replace Discord” threads are so tricky. I use Discord basically every day, and heavily twice a week for games nights with two different groups, for 6 years. I’m in there. And I have never uploaded a clip or streamed anything, so I never considered that this might be something people want, or are using the platform for. And I’ve seen a few custom emoji around, but never considered using some dude’s emoji in a different group’s chat.
So it’s wild how different people are using it, and getting one replacement to do all of it is a big ask!
lots of customization options for both the interface and your profile, but more important to most people is being able to use emojis/stickers from your subscribed servers everywhere on the platform. This might seem petty, but there’s no other software that I regularly use that requires me to pay in order to for example, change the theme of the interface.
edit: that does not include the stuff that I knew I was paying for and was on purpose paying for, like better stream quality and larger upload size and extra shit for my server.
Exactly, right? I remember streaming on discord was a pain because of all the lag and TeamSpeak + pigdin + Overwolf was so much better.
Now i use Legcord instead until my friends switch, which I hope is soon.
well, better streaming was one of the things that I was knowingly and intentionally paying for nitro for.
Very interesting. I’ve never really noticed the difference.
I’ve never been able to do a direct comparison, so maybe that part was a scam too.
Every few years we rediscover decentralized chat and I’m here for it.
Ventrilo. Been sitting in ventrilo for 30 years
Spelar dota
Wow, TeamSpeak is still around???
Sorta, and like the old days they claim they are working on things then take 4 years to do nothing…
Yeeah… Noble effort, really. Except people don’t give enough of a shit to actually move.
I’ve arranged for a Matrix space and Teamspeak server to be used for my friend Discord of about 100 people. 10 registered and 0 actually use the Matrix.
The bridged Matrix channel is only used for lighthearted spam from the Discord side.
The Teamspeak got like 6 registrations and 0 active users.
Most people won’t budge until they see the ID verification screen, and some not even then.
Delete the discord.
My friend group looked poised to move, disabled their nitro and such, and… Then discord pulled back and they bought nitro again.
My discord group had discussions about stopping discord use for weeks. I kept saying “if no one comes up with a better idea, I’ll go back to IRC.” The discussion didn’t move anywhere, I told them that by the end of February, I’ll go to IRC and delete my account. End of February came, I said “alright, IRC installed, I’ll be at X network, I made a channel called Y, see you there.” Then I deleted my account.
Three people followed me but they also stayed in discord. They tell me that everyone over there is surprised that I did what I told them for weeks that I would do lol.
But anyway, I’ve experienced this before. I left facebook in 2011, I lost contact with about 80% of the people I knew, because apparently calling, Whatsapp/SMS is not good enough. Then I left Whatsapp for Signal. I have 2 contacts there…
I’ve come to the conclusion that most people just don’t care about privacy and big corporations controlling shit. I wont be a part of that silly bollocks.
I did the exact same thing. Stuck to my guns, and the only person who mattered followed. I’ll take it
Yup. I don’t need 20 people to talk to. A few is enough. And I found a nice IRC channel with a lot of nice new people anyways. If the others want to stay in Discord, fine by me. Of course it helps that the people on Discord were not IRL friends that I’ve known since childhood. I lost those years ago =D
I am not as gung-ho on irc, most of my friend group just hangs out in audio channels and such.
But yeah, I cancelled my nitro after 6+ years when they clearly started enshittifying with the “quests” popups and other shite I had no interest in seeing and of course the IPO talks looming sometime last year or the year before.
Yeah it was pretty easy for me to switch to IRC because I have never liked audio/video chat stuff. I tried that once or twice with a very small group, I think I said 10 words all in all. I’m not a talker lol
This is the way.
That’s so frustrating.
I don’t think making these other programs optional is going to work to migrate a community. You can’t say to your football team that you’re gonna start playing basketball and be disappointed when they don’t come with you.
If the discord and matrix server was fully bridge then maybe you’d are a bit more success as the community would be less fractured. If you’re friends don’t want to move from discord, and you really don’t want to be in discord, that’s a tough situation for you be in.
Stoat seems to be the one my friend group is most interested in, currently I’m waiting to see which one is better in the next couple of months or so.
Stoat has to fix their self-hosted version before I’ll touch it again.
I spent quite a lot of effort getting Stoat up and running because they aren’t working on the selfhosted version, only to get a nice email from the German government that my server was running an outdated version of React with RCE vulnerabilities. Nuked that stack at 3am.
Also I fixed their Tenor integration to be provider agnostic so the self-hoster could choose a different gif provider like klipy (Tenor turned off their API so gif search in Stoat is broken), tried to contribute that one small change back to the main project, immediately rejected because “we have no plans for klipy support”.
Not worth the effort, IMO.
Did you guys also consider Fluxer? I tried Stoat first, but the main instance is really slow and there are some video features disabled due to high cost. Which is totally fair.
Fluxer seems to have more features and their main instance is a lot snappier. They’re also accepting donations via Plutonium. Which seems to be helping with the server costs.
Both are AGPLv3, with Fluxer recently saying they’re gonna remove their CLA so that it’s true Open Source.
They are selling a subscription. It isn’t really a donation if you pay a set price for services.
I’d also hold out to see their federation implementation before considering them as viable as matrix.
They do seem better than stoat, though.
Worth noting that the Plutonium subscription of Fluxer is irrelevant if you self host - you will have all features available and unlocked for free.
For me this sounds like a perfect compromise. “Discord Nitro” style monetisation is effective and compelling and like it or not a true competitor needs a revenue stream from somewhere and I have serious doubts about the viability of donation-only monetisation at this scale.
In my eyes, the only sensible way of building such a platform at scale is having it be federated. Otherwise you can host a server - and if you’re unlucky, might need accounts on five servers to access all the groups you want.
If their federation implementation comes relatively prompt and is workable, that’s great. If not, it feels like a way to bootstrap a centralised alternative to discord. Pre-enshitification discord, but it’d again be up to a single entity whether it stays that way.
I don’t mind paying for hosting, but I don’t want to jump from one centralised platform to the next.
Federation is on the 2026 roadmap for Fluxer, and while I’m sceptical they pull it off in that timeframe Hampus (the developer) has stated it to be a high priority for the project. Fluxer is also open source, which Discord never was. If it takes off and Hampus goes evil corpo it can be forked.
I’ll be interested to see their implementation, though it likely won’t replace matrix for me.
Yeah, I guess you’re right actually. You pay money and get more features. I tend to think of subscriptions for Open Source more as donations, but Fluxer is a little different.
But, yeah, like someone else said, you can self-host and not pay anything and get access to everything. Did I mention it’s fully Open Source without a CLA?!
It is, and that makes it much better than Discord, but currently they’re mostly building another monolith on the central instance. Self-hosting doesn’t mean much if the communities are all on there.
I’ll wait for federation, hope it comes soon. Till then, I see more potential in Matrix.
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out of the loop. what is discord doing to force an exodus?
Bringing in age-ID verification that they had to apply in the UK and Australia globally for all accounts to access NSFW channels and to be able to take the baby filter off of DMs.
They got heavy backlash for it, and have now delayed it.
ID check. This was also a few months after they had a major leak and hackers stole personal information.
They downplayed it but if it’s like all the other social media platforms, it’s going to be garbage.
I thought they cancelled.l the ID thing after the backlash. They are still rolling it out?
They have publicly rolled back this particular effort. It’s extraordinarily likely that this will resurface in a few months with a different coat of paint.
Not to defend discord, they’re plenty shitty, but the core ID verification premise may be out of their hands, based on the surge in legislation on the topic globally.
Stoat doesn’t have audio notifications. Makes it kinda doa for me
stoat has a lot of new platform jank, but remember discord was just as bad when it was new but we loved it anyway because it was better than everything else at the time. Personally I’m willing to sacrifice some convenience for the sake of privacy and security.
Agreed but audio notifications are pretty much the single most important thing I am looking for. I would actually love to use Stoat but for me it’s IRC atm.
that’s fair
Are stoat and fluxer federated? Don’t have time to watch the video right now.
Last I heard, Stoat isn’t planning federation.
Fluxer IS planning federation. https://blog.fluxer.app/roadmap-2026/
Damn that roadmap looks very promising
I dont think there are any federated chat systems with support for group calls and screensharing besides matrix. Maybe xmpp but i think its not natively implemented and more of a client add on. Matrix still misses some things (like sharing application audio) but its the best we got if you dont want to get caught in another unfederated enshittification spiral.
i love stoat, free, open, can self host, just enough features compared to discord for it to be viable
still using discord since a lot of things i use depend on discord for many things, though. and if you haven’t seen, there’s stoat to discord and vice versa bridges.
Ok everyone. Hear me out. Let’s just all get in the same room and play the same game.
Maybe have a party of some kind?
That is a great idea. We could have pizza and snacks.
We could connect our computers via wires even.
wish it was that easy,
My closests friendgroup dispersed around the province, one in kelowna, one in enderby, and im out on the Coast now. Discord (and now steam chat) kept us close
I kinda wish the fediverse had started with an account system which could then be integrated with various servers. It would concentrate on just keeping account configs where new services had new tab areas or such. Then you could have the services instances that would authtenticate and use the login configs for view and such. of course many instances would do multiple things but it would be so great to go to mastadon and have it interact with the same fediverse account as what I would use at lemming or peertube.