Not big into racing games, but FH6 is making me interested. Last racing game I really got into was burnout paradise on the PS3 I think. I don’t care about online at all, this would pretty much be solo story play, and exploring Tokyo.
I just don’t know much about forza, the different editions, if I’d like the controls. Is horizon more like burnout or NFS, or more sim racing?
Yes. The real question is; is this game for the racing fans you addressed this question to? The answer to that question is definitely no.
Caveats, caveats, caveats. No one has come out with any good racing game for years other than F1, and Forza Horizon isn’t bad like my answer made it seem, but it is definitely a casual game targeting a casual audience.
Yeah 4 and 5 are lots of fun but I wouldn’t want to deal the the in game monetization bs for like the first year on 6 until they release a version that has all the game stuff included
I don’t recall if burnout had cop chases, but if it did, note that FH games are very milquetoast, in that they try to not feature anything resembling illegal driving. If you fancy those, The Crew 1 (or 2) might be more your thing. Otherwise, FH is imo the single best non-sim open world racing game. It gives you a huge playground to dick around in, a crapton of cars, allows tuning and some limited customization, looks great (even on lower end hardware), sounds great and features arcadey but still somewhat complex handling. Its biggest sins are the fact that it requires servers, so it’s not exacly future-proof, it features some FOMO stuff and wheelspin gambling mechanics which are bound to get worse in FH6 (nothing ptw though), and it’s tied in to a microsoft account.
True but for FH3+ they were further integrated with the Xbox login and I don’t think you can try them without an actual account and login. I did emulate and run FH1+2 and they were perfectly playable as off SP games with no strings attached
didn’t you need to create an account since at least the 360?
or the difference is that you didn’t need to do it online there?
also did you use xenia? has it come that far? or something else
Yes, I believe it was xenia. Iirc I did have to create an account, but in the emulator, and then it acted as a wrapper and logged me in automatically when running the game. Sadly I was not offline to test if it also works like that, but I imagine it does, since it was a “fake” and not actually connected to xbox.
Forza is a racing sim. Forza Horizon is more casual. Burnout Paradise is a good comparison. I think that’s the same one I played on PC years ago. Big city, tracks made up of existing streets but you can basically go wherever? Yeah, that’s Forza Horizon.
I’m not a racing fan. I don’t like the racing sims. I have zero interest in regular Forza, or Gran Turismo, or any of those. The problem is that you need a wheel, otherwise you’re eating wall. Horizon is much more forgiving! I played 3-6 hours when I had FH5 on GamePass, and it was a LOT of fun. I personally did not find it very engaging, though, so I didn’t stick with it, but there’s a lot to love there.
FH5 was way bigger than Burnout Paradise and I would imagine so is FH6.
I played 3-6 hours when I had FH5 on GamePass, and it was a LOT of fun. I personally did not find it very engaging, though, so I didn’t stick with it
I think this is probably my main concern. I’ll get it, enjoy it for a few hours and get bored. Hopefully the story or progression is engaging enough to keep my interest. Because just driving around I know would get boring fairly quickly.
I don’t think FH5 had a story. Well, the story is, Forza Horizon is a racing celebration (held annually?) and you’re doing races and other activities to entertain the locals.
I think it’s a matter of whether or not you like the driving.
Mario Kart doesn’t have a story either, and I think it’s the most successful racing franchise? Seems like it would be. Certainly the oldest still around, going back to the Super NES.
Hopefully the story or progression is engaging enough to keep my interest.
The devs have promised that the story and progression will be getting a change from previous entries. The past few have gotten some flack for just throwing all the currency and all the cars at you without much challenge to it. Recent editions are bordering on being a car-collector-simulator as much as a racing game.
Personally, I’ve loved them all for just messing around and driving hundreds of different cars, but a bit of change in formula would be welcome, if they can pull it off.
The past few have gotten some flack for just throwing all the currency and all the cars at you without much challenge to it. Recent editions are bordering on being a car-collector-simulator as much as a racing game.
idk i play gran turismo and forza mototsport with a controller, without assists, except for abs (okay and tcs on higher powered racing cars, that are difficult to handle)
I’ve had a blast with the Horizon games from the first entry, and many of the Motorsport entries as well. Horizon strikes a great balance of arcade mechanics and style with tight, grounded physics and a pretty deep upgrade and tuning system. I basically only ever play solo, no multiplayer matches or anything, usually I’ll throw on a podcast or an audiobook, explore the map and do some races to make money, build a new car and repeat.
It’s got a pretty good damage model (which can be turned off entirely for single player content) but the crash physics aren’t as rich. With full damage on you definitely have to be careful to avoid wrecking your car, but you won’t get full body warping damage.
If you like Forza 5, then you will probably like Forza 6. Those who had hands on say its pretty much like Forza 5. Biggest difference is obviously the setting in Japan and the game has some progression starting with low cars. And the graphics are more dense and varied then before. This is what I personally expect.
I finished heat recently, cops early on are a pain. But later on you can outrun most of them and learn how to deal with them quite easily. Even 5 stars. Pretty good game.
There is a Corvette I ground out doing races at the racetrack in the starter Nissan. On that same track the Corvette can lap all the other cars. I didn’t see much of the cops except in the rear view.
Unlike underground 1/2 & most wanted, I switched cars a lot. At the end didn’t even unlock all. But didn’t feel like doing so either after I finished the game.
NFS II, I used to play it on Windows XP, when I was very little.
Road Rash, bike race with some weapons, I would still enjoy it.
NFS Most Wanted (old one)
Trackmania, because of unique tracks and stunts
The games listed above were not my choice, but the only things I had, so I enjoyed them. The only racing game that I actually enjoyed and was my choice was NFS Payback, because of well designed heist-like missions. It’s not perfect and left me wanting more. I haven’t played the Driver series, but have heard that it has similar concept.
I don’t like games that are just races, it because it starts feeling very monotonous. I’m not much into cars and modding either, so that’s also a thing. I did try launching a pirated copy of Forza Horizon 5 on my linux, didn’t work, so never really tried that either.
I’ve got hundreds of hours in Forza Horizon - So I’ll say this, Forza Horizon is an open world exploration game with race events. It does have a big online focus, as the Weekly events structure usually has a few that are online only but you can still have a lot of fun just making the perfect drift car and sliding around the map.
I only like arcade racers and I love Forza Horizon. The online components of entering races with other players you can totally ignore. The open world events (Forzathon, if it’ll still be called that) are pretty fun and collaborative rather than competitive.
If you like having a wide variety of cars to drive, a bunch of different race types (road, street, dirt and cross country racing) and great looking scenery then it’ll definitely appeal to you IMO. There’s also open world stuff like danger signs (stunt jumps), drift zones and speed traps/zones which I think are pretty fun and a nice break from races.
It plays great with a controller, all you need is accelerate/brake/turn/handbrake and you can complete most content (maybe not drift zones).
FYI if it’s like FH4/5 it defaults to online but there’s no need to turn it off as other players can’t get in your way and there’s not that many people on each map anyway.
I’m pretty hyped for FH6 but I’ll wait a couple of days after release to get it, just in case ;)
If you want to test FH4 pirated (you can’t buy it anymore for licensing reasons) before shelling out for FH6 just DM me and I’ll give you details on where to get a good copy and how to set it up on Linux (just got done with that a few days ago, even have multiplayer working).
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Yes. The real question is; is this game for the racing fans you addressed this question to? The answer to that question is definitely no.
Caveats, caveats, caveats. No one has come out with any good racing game for years other than F1, and Forza Horizon isn’t bad like my answer made it seem, but it is definitely a casual game targeting a casual audience.
Sit here next to me on the “God dammit release another Burnout game” bench.
It’s a microsoft game, so no.
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Buy Forza Horizon 4, if you like that then play it a few months and buy FH6 on sale.
Yeah 4 and 5 are lots of fun but I wouldn’t want to deal the the in game monetization bs for like the first year on 6 until they release a version that has all the game stuff included
Forza Horizon games throw tons of cars at you just by playing the game though. I have like 300 cars.
I don’t recall if burnout had cop chases, but if it did, note that FH games are very milquetoast, in that they try to not feature anything resembling illegal driving. If you fancy those, The Crew 1 (or 2) might be more your thing. Otherwise, FH is imo the single best non-sim open world racing game. It gives you a huge playground to dick around in, a crapton of cars, allows tuning and some limited customization, looks great (even on lower end hardware), sounds great and features arcadey but still somewhat complex handling. Its biggest sins are the fact that it requires servers, so it’s not exacly future-proof, it features some FOMO stuff and wheelspin gambling mechanics which are bound to get worse in FH6 (nothing ptw though), and it’s tied in to a microsoft account.
forzas do work offline, but since they handle connections, online features won’t, there’s no p2p
True but for FH3+ they were further integrated with the Xbox login and I don’t think you can try them without an actual account and login. I did emulate and run FH1+2 and they were perfectly playable as off SP games with no strings attached
didn’t you need to create an account since at least the 360?
or the difference is that you didn’t need to do it online there?
also did you use xenia? has it come that far? or something else
Yes, I believe it was xenia. Iirc I did have to create an account, but in the emulator, and then it acted as a wrapper and logged me in automatically when running the game. Sadly I was not offline to test if it also works like that, but I imagine it does, since it was a “fake” and not actually connected to xbox.
Forza is a racing sim. Forza Horizon is more casual. Burnout Paradise is a good comparison. I think that’s the same one I played on PC years ago. Big city, tracks made up of existing streets but you can basically go wherever? Yeah, that’s Forza Horizon.
I’m not a racing fan. I don’t like the racing sims. I have zero interest in regular Forza, or Gran Turismo, or any of those. The problem is that you need a wheel, otherwise you’re eating wall. Horizon is much more forgiving! I played 3-6 hours when I had FH5 on GamePass, and it was a LOT of fun. I personally did not find it very engaging, though, so I didn’t stick with it, but there’s a lot to love there.
FH5 was way bigger than Burnout Paradise and I would imagine so is FH6.
I think this is probably my main concern. I’ll get it, enjoy it for a few hours and get bored. Hopefully the story or progression is engaging enough to keep my interest. Because just driving around I know would get boring fairly quickly.
I don’t think FH5 had a story. Well, the story is, Forza Horizon is a racing celebration (held annually?) and you’re doing races and other activities to entertain the locals.
I think it’s a matter of whether or not you like the driving.
Mario Kart doesn’t have a story either, and I think it’s the most successful racing franchise? Seems like it would be. Certainly the oldest still around, going back to the Super NES.
The devs have promised that the story and progression will be getting a change from previous entries. The past few have gotten some flack for just throwing all the currency and all the cars at you without much challenge to it. Recent editions are bordering on being a car-collector-simulator as much as a racing game.
Personally, I’ve loved them all for just messing around and driving hundreds of different cars, but a bit of change in formula would be welcome, if they can pull it off.
Tbh that’s what I like about them
idk i play gran turismo and forza mototsport with a controller, without assists, except for abs (okay and tcs on higher powered racing cars, that are difficult to handle)
Horizon is great fun whether you enjoy racing or not
I’ve had a blast with the Horizon games from the first entry, and many of the Motorsport entries as well. Horizon strikes a great balance of arcade mechanics and style with tight, grounded physics and a pretty deep upgrade and tuning system. I basically only ever play solo, no multiplayer matches or anything, usually I’ll throw on a podcast or an audiobook, explore the map and do some races to make money, build a new car and repeat.
Do the cars take damage like in burnout?
It’s got a pretty good damage model (which can be turned off entirely for single player content) but the crash physics aren’t as rich. With full damage on you definitely have to be careful to avoid wrecking your car, but you won’t get full body warping damage.
If you like Forza 5, then you will probably like Forza 6. Those who had hands on say its pretty much like Forza 5. Biggest difference is obviously the setting in Japan and the game has some progression starting with low cars. And the graphics are more dense and varied then before. This is what I personally expect.
Need for Speed: Heat was a lot of fun. Never played it online but running from cops kept things spicy.
I liked heat for a bit. But then cops just become super fast tanks that are obnoxious
I finished heat recently, cops early on are a pain. But later on you can outrun most of them and learn how to deal with them quite easily. Even 5 stars. Pretty good game.
There is a Corvette I ground out doing races at the racetrack in the starter Nissan. On that same track the Corvette can lap all the other cars. I didn’t see much of the cops except in the rear view.
Unlike underground 1/2 & most wanted, I switched cars a lot. At the end didn’t even unlock all. But didn’t feel like doing so either after I finished the game.
The only racing games I have ever liked are
The games listed above were not my choice, but the only things I had, so I enjoyed them. The only racing game that I actually enjoyed and was my choice was NFS Payback, because of well designed heist-like missions. It’s not perfect and left me wanting more. I haven’t played the Driver series, but have heard that it has similar concept.
I don’t like games that are just races, it because it starts feeling very monotonous. I’m not much into cars and modding either, so that’s also a thing. I did try launching a pirated copy of Forza Horizon 5 on my linux, didn’t work, so never really tried that either.
I’ve got hundreds of hours in Forza Horizon - So I’ll say this, Forza Horizon is an open world exploration game with race events. It does have a big online focus, as the Weekly events structure usually has a few that are online only but you can still have a lot of fun just making the perfect drift car and sliding around the map.
It’s arcadey, but with decently realistic controls. The series is a lot of fun.
I only like arcade racers and I love Forza Horizon. The online components of entering races with other players you can totally ignore. The open world events (Forzathon, if it’ll still be called that) are pretty fun and collaborative rather than competitive.
If you like having a wide variety of cars to drive, a bunch of different race types (road, street, dirt and cross country racing) and great looking scenery then it’ll definitely appeal to you IMO. There’s also open world stuff like danger signs (stunt jumps), drift zones and speed traps/zones which I think are pretty fun and a nice break from races.
It plays great with a controller, all you need is accelerate/brake/turn/handbrake and you can complete most content (maybe not drift zones).
FYI if it’s like FH4/5 it defaults to online but there’s no need to turn it off as other players can’t get in your way and there’s not that many people on each map anyway.
Ok, this is getting me excited. Completely forgot about the speed cameras and jumps in Paradise and recall liking that aspect.
I’ll admit Japan is what got me looking, but it’s sounding like something I might actually really enjoy.
I’m pretty hyped for FH6 but I’ll wait a couple of days after release to get it, just in case ;)
If you want to test FH4 pirated (you can’t buy it anymore for licensing reasons) before shelling out for FH6 just DM me and I’ll give you details on where to get a good copy and how to set it up on Linux (just got done with that a few days ago, even have multiplayer working).
If you’re on PC or Xbox, you could try it on game pass when it comes out first before committing fully into it.