What I find stupid is that people will keep using it after all the shit they are doing. I mean, it’s twitch, you can live without it. And yet, people will accept this bullshit and keep going because the alternative of changing platform is just too bothersome for them. In the end, I’m starting to think we have the internet we deserve.
no way, people will just leave twitch for another streaming platform, kick and youtube exist and many stream on there and if your lucky, your favs never took an exclusivity contract and already multi stream.
Yeah exactly. The culture and the people make twitch, not the platform.
Same with YouTube - I could switch to peertube but I would be missing out on so many creators and so much content I genuinely wanna watch.
To me this always boils down to “it’s not worth it to live a boring life just out of principle”. I get that if everyone switched we’d be better off but we’re just not there yet.
You don’t need to watch this or that streamer to live. You can ditch them and do something else. The streamer goes where the money is. If they start seeing people don’t use twitch anymore, they will switch to whatever platform the audience wants. But alas, the audience seems to enjoy ads this way so…
It’s possible for them to stream to multiple platforms simultaneously, it’s common for streamers to do twitch and youtube at the same time. If the tools make it easy enough they might do it despite no potential to make money right away.
Makes it harder for community interaction given split chats though. And chatting with other random people in chats is like 60% of why I watch streams at all, so breaking that ruins the experience imo. Its like hanging out with a friend whose also just on a phone call the whole time.
Pretty sure twitch has deals with streamers that restricts how they can stream. I think SimpleFlips had a video explaining why he stopped streaming on YouTube, he didn’t realize the twitch partner contract required him to stream exclusively on twitch at the time. I’ve also heard some things about how you can stream simultaneously, but twitch doesn’t allow you merging chats from different platforms, so if you want to show chat in the stream itself, each platform might need a separate box.
I only use it for in-game drops once in a blue moon and even then it’s on 160p with no sound with two ad blockers on, minimized in the background. So even if they somehow serve me ads I won’t see them lmao
I have it running as a docker container and it just collect drops and points for me.
Honestly. The only reason I even have that was so I had points to gamble with during Eve Online’s alliance tournament. I don’t watch anything else on twitch.
The point miner specifically was of little use to me, but it had never occurred to me that an application could authenticate and then just pretend to watch things. This lead me to the twitch drop miner, which seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.
Like, die in a fire Twitch! That’s some unhinged behavior which made me delete my account, and I left some pointed feedback. Not that they’ll care, but, fuck those fuckers!
I use twitch for one thing and it’s literally to help support a friend of mine. He streams as part of his job to make money. You can’t currently do that on other websites and get the same benefit.
I have never liked twitch but I have a pretty valid reason for using it. He wouldn’t reach the audience he does there anywhere else except YouTube who don’t pay much if anything for streaming and take a more significant cut of donations.
People won’t leave because the viable options aren’t giving the same benefits, and it’s not just about the viewers, but also the content creators.
I think the real alternatives are Peertube or Owncast, because they are non commercially and FOSS and can be self hosted and federated.
In the long run, every commercial platform that has enough users will enshittify, that’s just capitalism.
That’s why we have to break the cycle and reject corporate social media.
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Solution: stop using Twitch.
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What I find stupid is that people will keep using it after all the shit they are doing. I mean, it’s twitch, you can live without it. And yet, people will accept this bullshit and keep going because the alternative of changing platform is just too bothersome for them. In the end, I’m starting to think we have the internet we deserve.
no way, people will just leave twitch for another streaming platform, kick and youtube exist and many stream on there and if your lucky, your favs never took an exclusivity contract and already multi stream.
So many platforms are like this. I think it’s because content creators their business tied into these systems.
If the viewers dry up they’ll stop being paid and leave.
It’s on every user to dump the platform.
Don’t underestimate the power of inertia.
I feel like people are eager to change and make new habits but won’t go places where there is no content.
It’s the streamers and youtubers who need to move, but they won’t because of of the other platforms don’t have similar monetization
Yeah exactly. The culture and the people make twitch, not the platform.
Same with YouTube - I could switch to peertube but I would be missing out on so many creators and so much content I genuinely wanna watch.
To me this always boils down to “it’s not worth it to live a boring life just out of principle”. I get that if everyone switched we’d be better off but we’re just not there yet.
You don’t need to watch this or that streamer to live. You can ditch them and do something else. The streamer goes where the money is. If they start seeing people don’t use twitch anymore, they will switch to whatever platform the audience wants. But alas, the audience seems to enjoy ads this way so…
This is self inflicted pain and people enjoy it.
Capital will claw you in and hold you down under the threat of bankruptcy.
It’s possible for them to stream to multiple platforms simultaneously, it’s common for streamers to do twitch and youtube at the same time. If the tools make it easy enough they might do it despite no potential to make money right away.
Makes it harder for community interaction given split chats though. And chatting with other random people in chats is like 60% of why I watch streams at all, so breaking that ruins the experience imo. Its like hanging out with a friend whose also just on a phone call the whole time.
Pretty sure twitch has deals with streamers that restricts how they can stream. I think SimpleFlips had a video explaining why he stopped streaming on YouTube, he didn’t realize the twitch partner contract required him to stream exclusively on twitch at the time. I’ve also heard some things about how you can stream simultaneously, but twitch doesn’t allow you merging chats from different platforms, so if you want to show chat in the stream itself, each platform might need a separate box.
I’m pretty sure Twitch has stopped exclusivity deals. They even recently allowed showing combined Twitch and Youtube chats on screen.
I only use it for in-game drops once in a blue moon and even then it’s on 160p with no sound with two ad blockers on, minimized in the background. So even if they somehow serve me ads I won’t see them lmao
Twitch channel point miner.
I have it running as a docker container and it just collect drops and points for me.
Honestly. The only reason I even have that was so I had points to gamble with during Eve Online’s alliance tournament. I don’t watch anything else on twitch.
I appreciate you mentioning this.
The point miner specifically was of little use to me, but it had never occurred to me that an application could authenticate and then just pretend to watch things. This lead me to the twitch drop miner, which seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.
I have an extension like that yeah
Like, die in a fire Twitch! That’s some unhinged behavior which made me delete my account, and I left some pointed feedback. Not that they’ll care, but, fuck those fuckers!
I use twitch for one thing and it’s literally to help support a friend of mine. He streams as part of his job to make money. You can’t currently do that on other websites and get the same benefit.
I have never liked twitch but I have a pretty valid reason for using it. He wouldn’t reach the audience he does there anywhere else except YouTube who don’t pay much if anything for streaming and take a more significant cut of donations.
People won’t leave because the viable options aren’t giving the same benefits, and it’s not just about the viewers, but also the content creators.
wow, what an awful idea
Does watching Twitch through GrayJay get around this?
Soooo. Delete twitch. Problem solved.
Yeah a website should not be able to tell where I am looking at or if my audio is muted or not.
But Bezos needs more money right, because he doesn’t have enough yet.
Blame the browsers for creating the APIs.
These tools can be used for good applications though. Why punish good developers when bad actors are the problem?
There is no valid need for this API.
This API can be used to suggest users take breaks if they’ve been using a site for a long time.
The exact same API exists in desktop environments; it’s just part of the progressive OS-ification of the web.
You mean Google.
No, I mean they all decide to adopt this shit.
yah but the problem is that other streaming platforms exist, and a fair few streamers multi stream so…
jeff might not have thought this through.
Drink verification can.
There has to be a way to write a plug in to fool sites into thinking you have volume on and the tab in focus.
just use kick or youtube
IT equivalent to ‘Eyelids glued open’
Sounds like something browsers should have an option to prevent. Or just don’t use twitch in the first place.
Browsers manage this just fine: just middle click on the tab.
The correct way to treat a twitch tab
I think the real alternatives are Peertube or Owncast, because they are non commercially and FOSS and can be self hosted and federated.
In the long run, every commercial platform that has enough users will enshittify, that’s just capitalism. That’s why we have to break the cycle and reject corporate social media.
Feels like a definite mile marker in our descent to Idiocracy.
This is Black Mirror, not Idiocracy. If you can only relate to reality through fiction, at least use the appropriate one.
I hate to tell you this, but black mirror may be in our rear view mirror.
Calm down.
Get shit right.
Make it shitty!
OMG this is hysterical