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Do switch 2 cartridges even store the full game? atp they’re more of a symbolic gesture than a copy of a title

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First party games do, with the lone exception of Pokopia. Yoshi and the Mysterious Book, the game they’re announcing this new pricing difference for, is a proper cartridge.

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Pokopia isn’t first party. It’s made by Bamco, same team as Dragon Quest Builders. All of Pokémon games are second party at best.

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Pokémon Pokopia
Publishers: Nintendo Co., Ltd.

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Are you expecting Duskbloods to be full on cart? Because we all know it’s a From Soft game, not a Nintendo game. Nintendo is only the publisher and I fully expect it to be a key card because it’s not a first party game. Same as Pokopia.

Nintendo publishes its own games on regular carts, and leaves the decision to the makers for the ones it’s only the publisher. If that is not clear to you, I don’t think we have much to talk about.

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You understand that the publisher is, in effect, the one who pays for the game to get made, right? The devs were specifically Omega Force, a Koei Tecmo team that has made a lot of games with nintendo properties lately

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Most of them do, yeah. There’s a big ugly box on the front of the ones that do not, so you can avoid them. Same with Switch 1 games that require a download.

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Very few of them do, grand majority are just game key cartridges.

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Well that’s cheaper than 70$ for a game + 15$ per month for the battle pass

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Why did I buy a Switch 2 again? Just for Cyberpunk 2077 it seems. I could already play that anyway.

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Not-buying things works.

Keep doing it.

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They really wanna phase out physical games.

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Goddamn.

You’re not wrong and Nintendo could go bankrupt tomorrow for all I care, but if this isn’t the precise thing people have been harping on about for a decade now, and here we are with someone doing the thing and there’s a immediate complaint.

Dammed if they do, dammed if they don’t. We should have stopped at arcades. Maybe paying per character life and without save states was the peak.

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They’re damned if they do because it’s too little too late and most of their carts are just a keyed license to the game and not the game itself anyways, which kinda’ begs the question why they’ll remain higher priced. They’re damned if they don’t because people don’t have as much disposable income as they used to and Nintendo is wonderful at not enticing anyone with new IPs these days anyways.

They’ve hoarded their wealth too long, and now they get to pay the price, one way or the other.

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This is about their own first party games (not counting Pokémon) and they are on proper carts, not key-cards.

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They aren’t lowering cart prices, so see the rest of my post as to why they’ll still be paying for their decisions.

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I’m not defending Nintendo, game pricing or whatever, but “begs the question why they’ll remain higher”? Really?

You can’t think of any reason why a physical product that has to be manufactured, shipped, unpacked, stocked, and sold by people would cost more than a download?

Game pricing has become obscene and there is no way on God’s great earth I’m dropping $80 on any game, but I think a $10 lower price point makes some sense. I’d love it to be more.

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It begs the question why the key carts even exist.

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And when they do, mark my words, they’ll raise the price of digital games to $70-80 because “we’re Nintendo, what the fuck are you gonna do about it?”

Well, Ninty, I have a Steam Deck loaded with cracked games, roms of your old shit you refuse to rerelease, PC ports of said roms, fan games, and games I’ve bought theough Steam that will literally last me several generations at this point, and that’s not even counting the games that have yet to release.

Yessir, I have enough PC games to never touch a Nintendo game ever again. And if I ever do feel the urge, there are tons of fan games, ports and roms of Nintendo IP accessible via web browser.

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Look, I have the same setup as you and I also have a Nintendo Switch 2 with which myself and my kids are getting hours a day of wholesome constructive fun together in Pokopia. I don’t think “well I can just steal stuff” is the great argument you think it is.

They know. They don’t care. You are on a report. You are shrinkage.

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🤡

Lemmyng
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Fair, I also have a Switch 2, and Pokopia looks like tons of fun.

My argument was moreso “I have other options” apart from Nintendo if they ever go the “you will own nothing and you will be happy about it” route, which they seem to be inching towards.

What’s this about me being on a report and shrinkage tho? Genuinely asking.

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He’s implying that you (and those who take the same approach as you) are a footnote on a sales report - that the foregone sales are insignificant.

Shrinkage is a term for an unaccounted reduction in inventory (usually due to theft, lost, or misplaced inventory).

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Yup. Good job Nintendo have an excellent track record of not shutting down their stores prematurely and making it easy to transfer your purchases to new consoles.

Oh wait.

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Technically they have with cart ID checks online, if you go online. If someone used a MIG to rip a cart, then sold the cart, and now 2 copies show the same ID key both accounts can get banned.

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It’d be real funny if they crack switch 2 home brew in half the time it took for switch one.

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Realistically not happening. The sad part is when Nintenderp starts caring, they START caring and hella secure their shit. Sony started the trend, but kinda eased off since they make plenty of other products besides PayStation, but big N only offers one crappy product.

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I’m not happy about it, but I think it’s kind of inevitable. It’s not a question of if, but when, and it’s not only going to be Nintendo.

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