I’m confused, the Zune and Metro (pre Windows 8, Metro was introduced with the Zune HD and used in Windows Phone) are some of the better things Microsoft has ever produced.
If you said UMPCs, Cortana, Copilot+ I would understand.
MS doesnt do “cool”. They have been desperate for years to try to capture it and they never have any idea what cool looks and feels like so their adverts for their shit is always so dorky and uncool.
Also they never support anything long after it comes out because the only vision they have is winning sales
I really liked the Zune AND the Nokia Lumia with Windows. honestly the Lumia was the best phone I ever had.
At one point, Microsoft did make good products. The only good thing they have now is the Windows Terminal which IMHO is one of the best terminal emulators out there, honestly wish I could have it on Linux.
Honestly, I’m not sure I have an answer to that… it doesn’t do anything unique, but it does a lot of things really well.
Config is json driven (UI just updates a json file, so you can do more advanced things in the config that the UI doesn’t allow), it has the ability to have multiple types of tabs, i.e, a powershell tab, git tab, WSL tab, etc. It’s fast and not resource intensive. It’s constantly updated. It’s open source with a clear roadmap. Split panes is handled fairly well.
I personally really enjoy Ctrl+c being context sensitive. If I highlight something it copies, if I hit it at the prompt, it will behave like it does in Linux.
I don’t feel like I can sell anyone on one feature, it’s just stable, updated frequently/has good support, and is a great experience (so don’t complain about it). When I’m using something else, there is always some feature I wish it had that Terminal does have.
I don’t really have any feelings towards it, it’s there to do its thing, but the terminals themselves still have their own weird quirks (like selecting/copying/pasting in cmd).
iirc this new terminal has a Quake mode, which is something that I am excited about. Once you use it, there’s no turning back. It’s always available with the press of a button and hides without stopping the process easily.
I don’t think I have ever used that app. Just cmd and powershell alone, or putty. I have been avoiding windows ssh since they log server and user name that accesses an ssh connection and sends it to microsoft during the connection attempt.
If that guy wasnt being paid his salary to do whatever the fuck he does I’d bet my left nut he wouldnt give a single fuck about co pilot and would probably be driving a macbook
The first thing I did after wiping windows and installing Arch on my new Thinkpad. It’s now my Ollama button for whatever model I feel like running locally.
I am like 97% sure it’s already just a macro key that simulates a press of win+ctrl+c or something like that that can be changed in the registry. They added a bunch of combos that open office apps and shit a while back.
But you can also just pin Terminal or any other app to your taskbar and then press win+[number desired pinned app is away from start button/search/task/whatever].
I feel sincerely sorry for the millions of IT Help Desk workers who will see an influx of people coming to them saying “I asked Copilot to free space on my computer and all my files are gone!!! Fix it!!!”
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Zune, Metro, Copilot+
If you know, you know.
I’m confused, the Zune and Metro (pre Windows 8, Metro was introduced with the Zune HD and used in Windows Phone) are some of the better things Microsoft has ever produced.
If you said UMPCs, Cortana, Copilot+ I would understand.
People give Balmer a ton of shit but most of MS’s cool stuff came out during his time.
The zune was truly awesome! Its only weakness was that Microsoft actually didn’t really believe on it (same with the Kin)
The Zune was amazing. Blew my iPod classic out of the water. I’m still mad it got stolen.
Microsoft just fucked up marketing it.
MS doesnt do “cool”. They have been desperate for years to try to capture it and they never have any idea what cool looks and feels like so their adverts for their shit is always so dorky and uncool.
Also they never support anything long after it comes out because the only vision they have is winning sales
They also like to try to shoehorn themselves into an already captured market quite often, but they don’t get sales and drop it like you said.
Métro, boulot, dodot?
I really liked the Zune AND the Nokia Lumia with Windows. honestly the Lumia was the best phone I ever had.
At one point, Microsoft did make good products. The only good thing they have now is the Windows Terminal which IMHO is one of the best terminal emulators out there, honestly wish I could have it on Linux.
What makes it so special?
Did your Zune also get stolen? Pretty much everyone I’ve talked to who had one had it stolen (myself included).
hah now that you mention it, yes my Zune did get stolen.
I want it for Linux too, but I use Tabby as it is the closest thing I have found to it.
Closest thing to what? What makes the terminal so special?
Honestly, I’m not sure I have an answer to that… it doesn’t do anything unique, but it does a lot of things really well.
Config is json driven (UI just updates a json file, so you can do more advanced things in the config that the UI doesn’t allow), it has the ability to have multiple types of tabs, i.e, a powershell tab, git tab, WSL tab, etc. It’s fast and not resource intensive. It’s constantly updated. It’s open source with a clear roadmap. Split panes is handled fairly well.
I personally really enjoy Ctrl+c being context sensitive. If I highlight something it copies, if I hit it at the prompt, it will behave like it does in Linux.
I don’t feel like I can sell anyone on one feature, it’s just stable, updated frequently/has good support, and is a great experience (so don’t complain about it). When I’m using something else, there is always some feature I wish it had that Terminal does have.
I don’t really have any feelings towards it, it’s there to do its thing, but the terminals themselves still have their own weird quirks (like selecting/copying/pasting in cmd).
iirc this new terminal has a Quake mode, which is something that I am excited about. Once you use it, there’s no turning back. It’s always available with the press of a button and hides without stopping the process easily.
I didn’t even know it had quake mode or what that was. But if it works, great. Just one more feature to keep folks enjoying it.
For you it’s quake mode, for me it’s context sensitive ctrl+c. Everyone has their thing for their workflows to be optimal for them.
Do you mean powershell? If so you can install it on Linux https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/install/install-powershell-on-linux?view=powershell-7.5
No they mean the Terminal App itself. It feels great to use, I use it all the time on my work laptop when running WSL.
I don’t think I have ever used that app. Just cmd and powershell alone, or putty. I have been avoiding windows ssh since they log server and user name that accesses an ssh connection and sends it to microsoft during the connection attempt.
Its not hype its marketing. There is not a single soul on this earth genuinely hyped about co pilot.
Sure there is. Remember that guy that presented it for Microsoft and he didn’t understand why nobody else was hyped?
There’s that guy.
If that guy wasnt being paid his salary to do whatever the fuck he does I’d bet my left nut he wouldnt give a single fuck about co pilot and would probably be driving a macbook
100% 😂
“[Enter any AI LLM service or solution here] failed to deliver on over-hyped promises”
ARM processors good
AI bad
That simple
no. no. no. you don’t understand. Its a bigger and better brother.
True
More AI bubble bullshit.
Shockingly if you create a product no one wanted or needed it sells badly.
The key is then to forcibly bundle it in with something people do want or need, thereby ruining both things.
In 10 years these copilot buttons on keyboards are going to look like Blockbuster buttons on older Roku remotes
Looking forward to the “co-pilot remapper” companion app that allows me to launch and hide whatever app I want with that button.
Looking at you Terminal!
The first thing I did after wiping windows and installing Arch on my new Thinkpad. It’s now my Ollama button for whatever model I feel like running locally.
I am like 97% sure it’s already just a macro key that simulates a press of win+ctrl+c or something like that that can be changed in the registry. They added a bunch of combos that open office apps and shit a while back.
But you can also just pin Terminal or any other app to your taskbar and then press win+[number desired pinned app is away from start button/search/task/whatever].
I’ll be damned. How long has that been a thing?!?
For sure it’s been an option since 7, but I feel like I remember there being a way to do something similar in XP.
Like forever in Linux.
giving AI the power to do things on your PC will lead to cases like:
FAFO. If you don’t want to control your computer then you wont have control over your computer.
I feel sincerely sorry for the millions of IT Help Desk workers who will see an influx of people coming to them saying “I asked Copilot to free space on my computer and all my files are gone!!! Fix it!!!”
Easy solution, replace the help desk with LLMs too and make it impossible to reach a human.
In reality, the most common answers are “No shit, Sherlock!” and “What’s Copilot?”
The “Shut up!” only comes after you point out that Linux doesn’t have forced AI bullshit.
(They hated Jesus because he told them he uses Arch, btw.)
It’s funny that Microsoft intended for this to be a marketing boon, but many users read it as a threat.