They could try lowering the price instead. I mean, paying $600 to play the newest Mario Kart seems a bit high. At that price, I’ll replay all the games they are re-releasing on switch 2 on my switch. What’s the point of a Switch 2?
I like it it’s just too damned expensive for what seems to be a minor upgrade from the switch. I mean the main differences are power, storage, display, and controller design and since my switch sits in the docking station and we use external controllers most of those are negated.
I haven’t seen a game that would justify it at this point.
And if you play docked you don’t get much out of the added power for the majority of games. You can get a few upgrade packs (some of which cost money) and a small number of games that require a Switch 2. But otherwise the main difference is better load times.
For handheld they just recently fixed this with a new handheld boost mode where Switch 1 games run in some docked mode simulation, so handheld players do get better performance and resolution out of a Switch 2 (in some cases significantly, there are some Switch 1 games that are borderline unplayable on a Switch 1 in handheld mode). But only as of a couple weeks ago. Literally the feature every handheld player wanted out of a Switch 2, and it took them this long.
Switch 2 has several games that would’ve pushed me to buy it. Mario Kart World, DK Bonanza and Pokopia all look like I’d enjoy them a lot. I just can’t afford it.
But prices around used PS5s and Eksbaxes, so it made no sense to me that it sold like it did. And there were no intriguing launch titles and still aren’t any.
The switch 2 costs considerably more in the US than elsewhere thanks to the tariffs. That tax is going to suppress sales no matter what, and there are other economic pressures that harm most people’s buying power as well
Keep in mind though that US prices don’t include VAT, whereas in most countries they do. But you’re right that it’s not significantly more expensive in the US, it’s pretty similar to other regions.
State+local sales tax at around 7.5% (weighted average) takes it to 480 USD (sales tax in the US can be 0 in a couple states, but is usually much more), canada appears to be winning this competition!
Edit 1: Apparently Canada doesn’t include sales tax in their prices, so North America is just special in general, I wonder if we can get Mexico in this coalition.
Edit 2: Mexico has declined to join our coalition.
I was under the impression Canada included sales tax in their pricing since usually people from the US are mocked for not having tax on their prices, the more you know!
It’s pretty confusing. Not everything is taxed, clothing and food aren’t for example, but processed food is. So they can’t include the price? Not every province is the same either, some have pst exemptions, some include both together as an hst.
Honestly this is exactly like the united states, thats why I used a weighted average tax - the taxes can be different county by county, although usually not by more than 3%…
We also have sales taxes in Canada, but that precentage depends on the province or territory. So you could expect the final Canadian price to go as high as $710 CAD.
The sales taxes were not to be included in the final price so that companies don’t jack up the price of things to the next $x.99 amount. It’s to be shown separately. Whether that actually does anything, I’m not sure. But I got pretty good at estimating 14%.
The games are $99.99 on the shelf for Canada too. Just seeing that is immediately revolting. $110 for the “switch 2 upgrade pack” versions of games, like BOTW. A fucking switch 1 launch title that is currently 9 years old.
Before tax. So add another 5-15% depending on province.
Yea, honestly I don’t know anyone that has bought or plans on buying a Switch 2, but I know a lot of people that bought or have Switch 1. Of course, that’s anecdotal, but shits just way too pricey. I and most that I know got into the Switch because of the affordability and on-the-go console play. Half of that equation is gone, and we already have the on-the-go console play with Switch 1.
Nintendo definitely learning the wrong lesson from this:
The Right Lesson: Maybe we shouldn’t released an expensive console, with only a handful of new games and tons of repeat releases that are $70 (and suck) especially in a really bad global economy, and some of those games dont even have a real physical copy, and stop treating our fans like they are literally Hitler because they are passionate about our products.
The Wrong Lesson: People must not want powerful hardware and physical games anymore.
Kids only care about Pokemon, casuals only touch Mario Party like once a month when family is over. So making a Pokemon Access Machine underspec’ed and overpriced is actually THE move from profit perspective.
Yeah, but they actually provided a real service in exchange for that subscription.
Meanwhile Sony pays studios to NOT develop games for other platforms, which is HORRENDOUSLY anti-consumer, and Nintendo I dont even have to talk about.
Microsoft isnt the consumers best friend, but out of the big three they are the least bad.
Why would they learn that when the Switch 2 is selling twice as fast as the first even with a much more limited catalog? A drop of 1/3 is still selling notably faster than the first Switch at it’s same time span. It’s still a huge success.
Why would I spend that much for a system only to play the same games I’ve already played on five other fucking systems? If you look at all the games you can play on switch 2 right now nearly all of them are from previous generation consoles.
And if that’s not bad enough, they charge full fucking price for the remakes too. You want to play a game that came out 15 years ago on the Wii? Well get ready to pay 60 fucking dollars for the privilege of paying for the same game for the third time.
Oh but you wanted to play in 4K? Cough up another $10 or $20 for the switch 2 upgrade.
Nintendo is smoking some serious fucking crack when it comes to the pricing of their shit.
Fuck all that. Get a steam deck or similar machine that can also play PC games and can emulate anything from the switch one or Wii U.
I recently almost purchased a switch 2, but after seeing the pricing structures and the lack of new original titles, I said no. I’m currently playing breath of the wild in the Cemu emulator at 4K on my TV at 120 FPS with all the bells and whistles including surround sound using the gaming laptop that I purchased 2 years ago. Game plays flawlessly and fully supports my dual sense controller that I already own. Saved myself a ton of money.
they got too greedy, why would I buy a system with games that expensive? Maybe once the library is full and there are people reselling their used copies for cheaper I’ll jump in, but for now I’m holding the line at 60.
If you’re too poor to afford video games, then you shouldn’t be playing them.
Shame there isn’t a gaming platform that often has tons of really cheap and often completely free games. One that has multiple storefronts, each with regular sales. Darn I guess that just means I’ll have to quit games entirely. For the sole reason of being too poor to afford overpriced hardware and overpriced games from a singular company regularly known for overcharging nostalgia bait games. Entirely because one person on the internet told me to, all so he could defend a billion dollar international company.
If I have a PC (which is practically a necessity for modern life anyways), I can get a bunch of fantastic titles on Steam for super cheap right now from their Spring Sale. If you’re too poor to afford a Switch 2, there are plenty of other options.
Personally, Mario Kart World, Kirby Air Riders, and the next Pokémon is enough to get me to spend $200-$300. Altogether though, I’m looking at $710 pre tax. That’s just too much for me.
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They could try lowering the price instead. I mean, paying $600 to play the newest Mario Kart seems a bit high. At that price, I’ll replay all the games they are re-releasing on switch 2 on my switch. What’s the point of a Switch 2?
The new Mario kart is shit too. Did 1 of each gp and uninstalled to bring back mk8.
My favorite part of the steam deck is how I didn’t have to pay to “upgrade” the games I already own.
Oh and how I didn’t have to buy my game library again
Well when you funnel everything to 1% eventually nobody can buy. That’s the whole point of the system.
Amazon UK have just discounted the Switch 2 form £499 to £385.
I like it it’s just too damned expensive for what seems to be a minor upgrade from the switch. I mean the main differences are power, storage, display, and controller design and since my switch sits in the docking station and we use external controllers most of those are negated.
I haven’t seen a game that would justify it at this point.
And if you play docked you don’t get much out of the added power for the majority of games. You can get a few upgrade packs (some of which cost money) and a small number of games that require a Switch 2. But otherwise the main difference is better load times.
For handheld they just recently fixed this with a new handheld boost mode where Switch 1 games run in some docked mode simulation, so handheld players do get better performance and resolution out of a Switch 2 (in some cases significantly, there are some Switch 1 games that are borderline unplayable on a Switch 1 in handheld mode). But only as of a couple weeks ago. Literally the feature every handheld player wanted out of a Switch 2, and it took them this long.
Switch 2 has several games that would’ve pushed me to buy it. Mario Kart World, DK Bonanza and Pokopia all look like I’d enjoy them a lot. I just can’t afford it.
They’ve half-assed every game since BOTW. The systems aren’t the problem.
TOTK was amazing
The fact that it runs above 20fps in some areas on a Switch 1 is amazing.
Nah there’s definitely bangers that came out after BOTW.
They’re definitely greedy with these upgrade prices though.
Nintendo needs to get humbled every couple of generations.
Wasn’t it the fastest selling console, at least for some time? So many people who wanted one will already have one.
But prices around used PS5s and Eksbaxes, so it made no sense to me that it sold like it did. And there were no intriguing launch titles and still aren’t any.
And one day the whole world was priced out of everything. Forgive our corporate overlords for they know not what they do. (Just kidding, they know).
But do they? It seems like most are very short sighted and opt for immediate gains as opposed to any long term growth.
The switch 2 costs considerably more in the US than elsewhere thanks to the tariffs. That tax is going to suppress sales no matter what, and there are other economic pressures that harm most people’s buying power as well
it doesn’t, in fact the switch 2 seems to be cheaper in the us than anywhere else (except maybe japan)
msrp is 450$ usd in the us, 630$ cad (458$ usd) in canada, 396£ (530$ usd) in the uk, 700$ aud (487$ usd) in australia, and 470€ (545$ usd) in france
i don’t think the tariffs are having much of an impact, or more likely nintendo is charging everyone to cover them
Keep in mind though that US prices don’t include VAT, whereas in most countries they do. But you’re right that it’s not significantly more expensive in the US, it’s pretty similar to other regions.
State+local sales tax at around 7.5% (weighted average) takes it to 480 USD (sales tax in the US can be 0 in a couple states, but is usually much more), canada appears to be winning this competition!
Edit 1: Apparently Canada doesn’t include sales tax in their prices, so North America is just special in general, I wonder if we can get Mexico in this coalition.
Edit 2: Mexico has declined to join our coalition.
Minimum 5% tax in Canada too, swings back the other way.
Can’t account for tax on only one side.
I was under the impression Canada included sales tax in their pricing since usually people from the US are mocked for not having tax on their prices, the more you know!
We copy their dumb shit a lot. It sucks.
It’s pretty confusing. Not everything is taxed, clothing and food aren’t for example, but processed food is. So they can’t include the price? Not every province is the same either, some have pst exemptions, some include both together as an hst.
I’m in AB where it’s simple and you just add 5%.
Honestly this is exactly like the united states, thats why I used a weighted average tax - the taxes can be different county by county, although usually not by more than 3%…
We also have sales taxes in Canada, but that precentage depends on the province or territory. So you could expect the final Canadian price to go as high as $710 CAD.
Oh I thought Canada would have it included, interesting!
The sales taxes were not to be included in the final price so that companies don’t jack up the price of things to the next $x.99 amount. It’s to be shown separately. Whether that actually does anything, I’m not sure. But I got pretty good at estimating 14%.
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The games are $99.99 on the shelf for Canada too. Just seeing that is immediately revolting. $110 for the “switch 2 upgrade pack” versions of games, like BOTW. A fucking switch 1 launch title that is currently 9 years old.
Before tax. So add another 5-15% depending on province.
Yea, honestly I don’t know anyone that has bought or plans on buying a Switch 2, but I know a lot of people that bought or have Switch 1. Of course, that’s anecdotal, but shits just way too pricey. I and most that I know got into the Switch because of the affordability and on-the-go console play. Half of that equation is gone, and we already have the on-the-go console play with Switch 1.
And now the price point competes with handheld pcs
Nintendo definitely learning the wrong lesson from this:
The Right Lesson: Maybe we shouldn’t released an expensive console, with only a handful of new games and tons of repeat releases that are $70 (and suck) especially in a really bad global economy, and some of those games dont even have a real physical copy, and stop treating our fans like they are literally Hitler because they are passionate about our products.
The Wrong Lesson: People must not want powerful hardware and physical games anymore.
Kids only care about Pokemon, casuals only touch Mario Party like once a month when family is over. So making a Pokemon Access Machine underspec’ed and overpriced is actually THE move from profit perspective.
Which is why I maintain my order of least to most consumer friendly gaming big three is:
Nintendo < Sony < Microsoft
For all its flaws, Microsoft is the leash anti-consumer, because they don’t have exclusives anymore.
M$ was also THE first to charge for multiplayer…even on PC once Xbox era began.
Yeah, but they actually provided a real service in exchange for that subscription.
Meanwhile Sony pays studios to NOT develop games for other platforms, which is HORRENDOUSLY anti-consumer, and Nintendo I dont even have to talk about.
Microsoft isnt the consumers best friend, but out of the big three they are the least bad.
Why would they learn that when the Switch 2 is selling twice as fast as the first even with a much more limited catalog? A drop of 1/3 is still selling notably faster than the first Switch at it’s same time span. It’s still a huge success.
Why would I spend that much for a system only to play the same games I’ve already played on five other fucking systems? If you look at all the games you can play on switch 2 right now nearly all of them are from previous generation consoles.
And if that’s not bad enough, they charge full fucking price for the remakes too. You want to play a game that came out 15 years ago on the Wii? Well get ready to pay 60 fucking dollars for the privilege of paying for the same game for the third time.
Oh but you wanted to play in 4K? Cough up another $10 or $20 for the switch 2 upgrade.
Nintendo is smoking some serious fucking crack when it comes to the pricing of their shit.
Fuck all that. Get a steam deck or similar machine that can also play PC games and can emulate anything from the switch one or Wii U.
I recently almost purchased a switch 2, but after seeing the pricing structures and the lack of new original titles, I said no. I’m currently playing breath of the wild in the Cemu emulator at 4K on my TV at 120 FPS with all the bells and whistles including surround sound using the gaming laptop that I purchased 2 years ago. Game plays flawlessly and fully supports my dual sense controller that I already own. Saved myself a ton of money.
they got too greedy, why would I buy a system with games that expensive? Maybe once the library is full and there are people reselling their used copies for cheaper I’ll jump in, but for now I’m holding the line at 60.
I’d love to get a Switch 2, but $500 + $70/per game is just too steep for me.
That’s 80$-90$ in Canada, that’s just waaay too much for a video game. I’ll wait until the homebrew scene gets off the ground first.
They’re a business and they need to make money.
If you’re too poor to afford video games, then you shouldn’t be playing them.
Well aren’t you a bundle of joy.
Please, leave the poor billion dollar company alone :(
It’s not about affording something, it’s about it’s value. Nintendo is way overpriced atm.
Shame there isn’t a gaming platform that often has tons of really cheap and often completely free games. One that has multiple storefronts, each with regular sales. Darn I guess that just means I’ll have to quit games entirely. For the sole reason of being too poor to afford overpriced hardware and overpriced games from a singular company regularly known for overcharging nostalgia bait games. Entirely because one person on the internet told me to, all so he could defend a billion dollar international company.
If I have a PC (which is practically a necessity for modern life anyways), I can get a bunch of fantastic titles on Steam for super cheap right now from their Spring Sale. If you’re too poor to afford a Switch 2, there are plenty of other options.
In theory I’d be upset with that but there’s no games to buy anyways.
Personally, Mario Kart World, Kirby Air Riders, and the next Pokémon is enough to get me to spend $200-$300. Altogether though, I’m looking at $710 pre tax. That’s just too much for me.
It’s a price thing for me to for the most part.
If they had better first party games, I’d be tempted, but even then.
Also them banning consoles of people who bought used games is a big no for me.
That means the only way to protect myself is to way until the system gets hacked and play on a hacked system disconnected from Nintendo.
So, that’s what I’m waiting for.