It’s pretty fun these days actually, new endgame bosses come out every now and then, they’ve added a ton of new skills, and they removed their lootbox mechanic and have done a lot to get rid of the daily FOMO grind. Lifted daily caps on some activities, gotten rid of others.
I haven’t played in half a year, but honestly, a lot of the changes they’ve been talking about are a huge positive for the game.
“i dont like something and so no one else should” there are people who like the game. Its an mmo, so there are costs inherent in that, server, full time staff etc. It is not unreasonable to ask for some amount of money to keep the game going with updates. Is this price point unreasonable and greedy? Sure feels like it. Is your comment even more unreasonable? Definitely.
its mostly bots in both games. they are sustaining the game by keeping in game items cost low, rs too grindy for irl people to play so its bots/alts are doing the dirty work.
Also worth noting that they fucked over their longest continuous supporters by rug-pulling their grandfather rates after promising they wouldn’t be touched. That is a huge slap in the face for anyone who considers supporting them going forward.
I played the older rune scape growing up, like a lot, it was my first MMO, and also my last, since nothing else scratched the same itch.
The draw of the game, at least for me, were two things.
One: the punishment for dying was losing all but 3 of your items, so there were high stakes that made enemy encounters kinda exciting. It was pretty unique at the time, though maybe Ultima Online had that too, not sure.
Two: the quests in run escape actually slapped. Unlike literally every other MMO on the market (which had simple fetch quests or kill X amount of things quests), Rune scape had really well written, funny, interesting quests that often played like an older point’n’click adventure, many of which gave really unique and odd rewards that you could practically use in other parts of the game.
Those just blew my wee little mind back then, and I was absolutely hooked on it. I think in particular the quests would hold up, even against modern titles.
The downside was to get to those quests, you had to grind like a motherfucker to get the required skill levels to start it. That padded out the play time by hundreds of hours, but doing it with friends or chatting while you did cooked some lobster for the 300th time made it bearable, sometimes even soothing to zone out to.
I could never tolerate the grind today like 12 year old me could, it’s unbearable, but if I could play a version of runescspe that removed the grind, I’d be tempted just to play allthe quests I never got to.
oh yea the grindy is too much and too click intensive now that people are older and cant afford to destroy thier hands and waste thier time. thats why they played the newer one instead. grinding is only tolerable if you can AFK it.
yeah what you’re saying is what I’ve often heard about it. it’s a nostalgia thing. it’s the MMO that they played as a kid and that’s why they like it. they like remembering being a baby or something
Uhh, no? I pointed out the good parts about it that stand out even to this day, and that I had a much higher tolerance for endless grinding when I was younger (the clear negative of the game).
Your response is leads me to believe you only read the first few words of my comment.
In case you might be interested, there are a handful of private-servers for old school RuneScape.
And they usually give you the ability to choose an XP multiplier. 2009scape for instance, gives you a 5x multiplier by default.
They’re not 100% complete recreations, but they add more quests all the time and I believe they have most skills.
Worth checking out imo. You can even download and run your own copy of their server (with some effort), and then you can tweak literally anything (again with effort and knowledge of Java)
Fair, I guess at that point, it might just not be the kinda game for you. It is grindy by design, the official game, of course, wants you to stay in the game longer so you buy more subscription time.
Idk, I enjoy playing OSRS on occasion, they added sailing as a skill, and honestly it was pretty cool. Having your own boat and being able to freely sail around the entire map. I mostly play for the nostalgia though.
It certainly was my kind of game growing up when I had a lot of free time, but even then, I wasn’t super into grinding, I just did it to get to the quests, which I very much enjoyed.
If there was a server with virtually no grinding and just quests to where I could play it essentially like an online point’n’click adventure with some combat, I’d hit it for sure. :)
Recent expansions added some account wide progression. Rep is now account wide namely, along with the new delve season progression. There may be more, especially with the new expansion, but that’s what’s off the top of my head.
Honestly can’t comprehend why anyone would make alts aside from access to additional retainers for free and maybe playing across data centers, but playing the main story is a fucking GRAND EPIC ADVENTURE that takes about 200 goddamn hours. You will literally never run out of things to do on one character in ff14. Ever.
Posting the main quest just to get to the latest raid content is literally what is stopping me from returning lol. And that’s just a tenth of the campaign at this point probably
Other commenter got it. 200 hours is just JUST to get through the main story that unlocks the other stuff. The “other stuff” is like 95% of the content and the main story is just the barrier to entry.
There are also side quests, guild quests for dozens of different skills, and all sorts of other activities beyond questing. Plus several expansions. You really won’t ever run out of things to do in FFXIV…
I just started playing Oldschool RS a couple months ago for the first time since like 2009. It’s incredibly fun and chill with an insane amount of content. The old content is super nostalgic and the new content is high quality stuff. It’s right up my alley.
I’m happy to have this game as one of my very few subscriptions.
thats what they(ors) get for complaining about TH/MTX, runescape had to cut costs somewhere. most recently they removed alot of content dailyscape, and what not from the game. they have to earn that revenue back somehow.
I wonder how active it’s monthly playercount is going to be after this. Of course they won’t make it public. Heck, even support doesn’t exist as far as I have played it.
I will be back for the next osrs league with my gf I bought at GE. I do not know what the price was for the last league but I was not appaled for the 3 months.
I wonder if players like us will smooth out the long term players who have less or no membership after this.
Does the game have a cash item shop? Will they be removing that? I can understand if they are removing a cash item shop or something, that is technically a trade of that revenue for subscription revenue. A little late to the subscription party though, people are wisening up to the fact they end up paying more on subscriptions.
I am not unreasonable though. Nobody ever likes price increases but from the perspective of the business price increases are sometimes necessary to keep up with inflation and cover server costs, etc. I dont know Jagex’s business and financials enough to know if this is necessary for the game to stay online or if it is just greed.
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It comes as a surprise to me that they charge to play RuneScape and people
fallpay for itIt’s pretty fun these days actually, new endgame bosses come out every now and then, they’ve added a ton of new skills, and they removed their lootbox mechanic and have done a lot to get rid of the daily FOMO grind. Lifted daily caps on some activities, gotten rid of others.
I haven’t played in half a year, but honestly, a lot of the changes they’ve been talking about are a huge positive for the game.
“i dont like something and so no one else should” there are people who like the game. Its an mmo, so there are costs inherent in that, server, full time staff etc. It is not unreasonable to ask for some amount of money to keep the game going with updates. Is this price point unreasonable and greedy? Sure feels like it. Is your comment even more unreasonable? Definitely.
I always laugh at people who play RuneScape. I laughed at them when it was new and I laugh at them now. It’s such trash.
If people keep playing there is no reason to not increase prices.
its mostly bots in both games. they are sustaining the game by keeping in game items cost low, rs too grindy for irl people to play so its bots/alts are doing the dirty work.
Also worth noting that they fucked over their longest continuous supporters by rug-pulling their grandfather rates after promising they wouldn’t be touched. That is a huge slap in the face for anyone who considers supporting them going forward.
I tried to play this game and it’s fucking weird
click click, click click going around in a circle a thousand times. stupid fake retro sound effects
bro, this isn’t good. this isn’t a good game. you shouldn’t be playing it. this is bad
I just started like 3 months ago and I’m fucking obsessed. It’s so zen and grindy and full of content both old and fuck and super fresh.
You can pay as much or as little attention as you want and still make progress in a million different interconnecting ways.
To quote JoshStrifeHayes:
This is a Chatroom first with a game slapped onto it.
You won’t be able to fully enjoy it on your own. I like it as an experience but not as a game as I prefer other types of games.
It’s machine that turns a monthly subscription into compressed nostalgia
I played the older rune scape growing up, like a lot, it was my first MMO, and also my last, since nothing else scratched the same itch.
The draw of the game, at least for me, were two things.
One: the punishment for dying was losing all but 3 of your items, so there were high stakes that made enemy encounters kinda exciting. It was pretty unique at the time, though maybe Ultima Online had that too, not sure.
Two: the quests in run escape actually slapped. Unlike literally every other MMO on the market (which had simple fetch quests or kill X amount of things quests), Rune scape had really well written, funny, interesting quests that often played like an older point’n’click adventure, many of which gave really unique and odd rewards that you could practically use in other parts of the game.
Those just blew my wee little mind back then, and I was absolutely hooked on it. I think in particular the quests would hold up, even against modern titles.
The downside was to get to those quests, you had to grind like a motherfucker to get the required skill levels to start it. That padded out the play time by hundreds of hours, but doing it with friends or chatting while you did cooked some lobster for the 300th time made it bearable, sometimes even soothing to zone out to.
I could never tolerate the grind today like 12 year old me could, it’s unbearable, but if I could play a version of runescspe that removed the grind, I’d be tempted just to play allthe quests I never got to.
oh yea the grindy is too much and too click intensive now that people are older and cant afford to destroy thier hands and waste thier time. thats why they played the newer one instead. grinding is only tolerable if you can AFK it.
yeah what you’re saying is what I’ve often heard about it. it’s a nostalgia thing. it’s the MMO that they played as a kid and that’s why they like it. they like remembering being a baby or something
Uhh, no? I pointed out the good parts about it that stand out even to this day, and that I had a much higher tolerance for endless grinding when I was younger (the clear negative of the game).
Your response is leads me to believe you only read the first few words of my comment.
thank you susan
In case you might be interested, there are a handful of private-servers for old school RuneScape. And they usually give you the ability to choose an XP multiplier. 2009scape for instance, gives you a 5x multiplier by default.
They’re not 100% complete recreations, but they add more quests all the time and I believe they have most skills.
Worth checking out imo. You can even download and run your own copy of their server (with some effort), and then you can tweak literally anything (again with effort and knowledge of Java)
I tried a couple of those a few years back, but even with the xp multipliers, it seemed like a bit too much of a time commitment :(
Fair, I guess at that point, it might just not be the kinda game for you. It is grindy by design, the official game, of course, wants you to stay in the game longer so you buy more subscription time.
Idk, I enjoy playing OSRS on occasion, they added sailing as a skill, and honestly it was pretty cool. Having your own boat and being able to freely sail around the entire map. I mostly play for the nostalgia though.
It certainly was my kind of game growing up when I had a lot of free time, but even then, I wasn’t super into grinding, I just did it to get to the quests, which I very much enjoyed.
If there was a server with virtually no grinding and just quests to where I could play it essentially like an online point’n’click adventure with some combat, I’d hit it for sure. :)
And for that price WoW offers 65? character slots, while RS offers the whole 1.
Has WoW actually become alt friendly in the recent expansions?
Recent expansions added some account wide progression. Rep is now account wide namely, along with the new delve season progression. There may be more, especially with the new expansion, but that’s what’s off the top of my head.
It wasn’t even main friendly back when I quit.
Right, hence my question — 65 character slots doesn’t really mean much if you’ll only ever have the time to play one.
The Warbands system does make it better. Though, like anything I’m sure it isnt perfect for everyone.
Tbf to Jagex. An RS or OSRS character doesn’t need an alt in the same way you need to be able to have different builds in WOW.
Ff14 also lets you play all classes in one character but they still let you make alts.
You have to pay for them though right. The base only lets you have 1 character.
But only nerds have more than 1
Honestly can’t comprehend why anyone would make alts aside from access to additional retainers for free and maybe playing across data centers, but playing the main story is a fucking GRAND EPIC ADVENTURE that takes about 200 goddamn hours. You will literally never run out of things to do on one character in ff14. Ever.
Posting the main quest just to get to the latest raid content is literally what is stopping me from returning lol. And that’s just a tenth of the campaign at this point probably
Pedantic aside joke: “takes about 200 gd hours” immediately says “YOU WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF THINGS TO DO - EVER”
I get that that’s way out of context, I just thought it was funny. Okbaiiiiii~
Other commenter got it. 200 hours is just JUST to get through the main story that unlocks the other stuff. The “other stuff” is like 95% of the content and the main story is just the barrier to entry.
200 hours was in reference to the main storyline.
There are also side quests, guild quests for dozens of different skills, and all sorts of other activities beyond questing. Plus several expansions. You really won’t ever run out of things to do in FFXIV…
You’ll run out of things you want to do eventually
Yes, in RS your character is a jack of all trades. People who make alts in RS do it for an ironman char or for money/item making and drops.
Main, Ironman and a few different PvP builds? €50/month +
The only thing that kind of saves it is being able to buy bonds, but you’ll need a constant flow of cash for that.
And WoW offers an API for plugins like boss assistants.
Well OSRS has teamed up with RuneLite which also offers an API.
Finally
Runescape is kinda fun but it’s not worth nearly that much for a single character.
Jagex profit margins are insane. It will never be enough as they’re completely owned by a VC capital firm.
I just started playing Oldschool RS a couple months ago for the first time since like 2009. It’s incredibly fun and chill with an insane amount of content. The old content is super nostalgic and the new content is high quality stuff. It’s right up my alley.
I’m happy to have this game as one of my very few subscriptions.
I sometimes wonder if stuff like this is why I lose my interest in games every couple of years and take years long breaks.
The time demands of raiding in WoW made me drop the game cold turkey.
The classics never had micro transactions and still hold up and have mods. I replayed fable recently and had a lot of fun and nostalgia
I find myself replaying games 90% of the time.
Just revisiting those wonderful places. I don’t see them in the games these days but waiting on next Fallout or Elder Scroll / Dark Soul / Zelda
thats what they(ors) get for complaining about TH/MTX, runescape had to cut costs somewhere. most recently they removed alot of content dailyscape, and what not from the game. they have to earn that revenue back somehow.
Just a gentle reminder that 2009Scape exists and you can play it offline with member benifits.
https://gitlab.com/2009scape/singleplayer/
This is amazing, thanks for sharing!
Oh hey, I recognize your name! Did you also hop onto 2009 yesterday night? I think we were on Tutorial Island together haha
There’s a scape for every major version of RS you could have nostalgia for. It’s beautiful.
Nostalgia, then I remember all the grind involved and lose any interest in grindy MMOs…
Just give me castle wars tbh
2009Scape allows you to play with 1, 2, or 5 times XP in normal mode, or up to 10x in IronMan mode.
Isn’t every mode iron man mode? It’s single player so you won’t be trading anyway right?
No, you can enable the grand exchange in the single player one.
That’s wild, it didn’t even occur to me that this could be a thing. So like it’s a private server G.E.
Yep.
there is multiplayer 2009scape, thus the need for ironman mode for those who want it
Gotcha! I thought it was only single player.
Lets federate it (if it hasn’t already been done)
Very cool, thanks!
I can finally get some coal without 300 people on the same vein
I wonder how active it’s monthly playercount is going to be after this. Of course they won’t make it public. Heck, even support doesn’t exist as far as I have played it.
from what ive saw on the subreddit, orS has mostly bots in it, skewing the player count.
I will be back for the next osrs league with my gf I bought at GE. I do not know what the price was for the last league but I was not appaled for the 3 months. I wonder if players like us will smooth out the long term players who have less or no membership after this.
Just play 2007scape. It was hardly worth 5 dollars in the heyday, its not worth fucken 3 times that now that its washed.
Oh that got more expensive as well
they eliminated 6month membership , plus premiere privileges is rendered mostly moot.
OSRS is a completely new game. They’ve added so much content, it’s absolutely worth it if you haven’t played in a while.
Does the game have a cash item shop? Will they be removing that? I can understand if they are removing a cash item shop or something, that is technically a trade of that revenue for subscription revenue. A little late to the subscription party though, people are wisening up to the fact they end up paying more on subscriptions.
I am not unreasonable though. Nobody ever likes price increases but from the perspective of the business price increases are sometimes necessary to keep up with inflation and cover server costs, etc. I dont know Jagex’s business and financials enough to know if this is necessary for the game to stay online or if it is just greed.
They’ve done a massive purge of MTX throughout the game.
they removed 99% of it, including daily scape. alot of new players and returning ones depend on it to restart the game. Auras are totally obliterated